Dude Don't Cycle!

[JScondition]

How do you tell a close friend that he does not need to be cycling...

I have a stubborn friend that does almost nothing right when it comes for cycling. If it wasn't for my brother and me telling him how to run his cycle, he would be doing a dbol only cycle for 12 weeks. He eats like shit(McDonald's 3 days a week), his bf% is waaaaaay too high, he does not train right(doesn't do legs cause he doesn't want his jeans to not fit), he asks if he can drink on cycle, he has injuries, never does cardio, he says he's only doing this temporarily and doesn't believe me when I say AAS is a lifestyle change etc.etc.etc...

When I tell him he needs to lose weight because his cholesterol could be dangerous on cycle/he could get high blood pressure/could **** up his liver he says he will lose weight on cycle...or he will just get lypo later on down the line. He then proceeds to order the shittiest thing on the menu in large portions cause he is hungry.

With any other friend I would say, "look dude get a ****ing clue, you are going to kill yourself." but I have known this guy for close to all my life and he is a great loyal friend.

Any suggestions on what to say to him or how to go about doing it?

[bjohnson1968]

my suggestion is to be straight up with the dude...be relentless and dont hold back on what you really think..by not really laying it on the line for him it could be more dangerous in his decisions

Peace

[ThatGuyYeahHim]

lol @ doesnt want to work legs cause he wants his jeans to fit.
classic.

Umm, I dont know what to say. If he doesnt realise you can buy different sized pants I dont know if this guy can be helped.

Short of printing off various threads/etc explaining why not to cycle if youre not fit, diet posts, i read one on losing all your gains right after if youre not eating/training properly I dont know. You could offer him some free gear ONCE he hits a few targets you set if this motivates him? Or find something else that will at least motivate him in the right direction?

[marcus300]

Hopefully he will get high blood pressure,gyno and cause serious damage to his HPTA which will result in low testosterone for life: its the only way he will learn by his own mistakes, if he wont listen to you so what! let him harm himself.

[JScondition]

Hopefully he will get high blood pressure,gyno and cause serious damage to his HPTA which will result in low testosterone for life: its the only way he will learn by his own mistakes, if he wont listen to you so what! let him harm himself.

Knowing how stubborn he is... this is probably the only way he will learn. Sad but true.

[setian]

I got a buddy like this. He doesn't cycle just stays on the stuff year round. Has no idea what he is doing.

[Nooomoto]

Some people need to learn lessons the hard way. If he hasn't listened to you up to this point, he won't. He's going to have to learn for himself. Just hope as his friend that he isn't one of those who ends up learning from some type of very serious problems.

[MMArmour]

take his fvcking gear and hide it man! simple. your his bro, and he is about to do harm to himself! If he is this life long loyal friend you are saying he is dont listen to these dudes telling you to just let him hurt himself! Take action! If he has beef, whats a little blood between the ones we love? beat his fat ass up for not having common sense. Every now and again when me or one of my close bros shits the proverbial bed of life, we wait till your not looking and either chin check you or punch you in the back of the head and when you turn and look at that person you get told "you KNOW why!". He needs his awareness heightened.

[killtosleep]

yea i say let people make there own mistakes and learn from them but in case of a close friend...you gotta help him out.check his ass.

[MMArmour]

yea i say let people make there own mistakes and learn from them but in case of a close friend...you gotta help him out.check his ass.

x2!!!!!!!!!!!

[MuscleCommand]

Tell him to sign up and post up here. He'll get the message after a few days.

[dece870717]

I know all too many guys like this. I know a couple guys that only workout when they cycle....ya . Know far too many guys that should not be using steroids EVER because their goals are so low and would be easily feasible naturally without messing with your hormones. Too many guys that are simply not consistent with workouts and etc, or I always get a kick out of the guys that THINK they eat a lot but when they hang around me all day while I'm eating below maintenance calories they ask if I'm bulking! There are a lot of just plain idiots out there and the majority of them are lost causes.

[MaNiCC]

Tell him to sign up and post up here. He'll get the message after a few days.

To be Honest if he is going to ignore us like he ignores js do we really need another member like that (no offence js)

If he wont listen then the only way he is going to learn is by making mistakes, its amazing what a New pair of tits can do to wake people up.

[shiz1231]

i got a friend similar to this, hes been training with me for a year or so, doesnt take my advice, only gained about 2 kgs, drinks and does drugs most weekend and im natural myself but when i do cycle he wants to copy me and not do any of his own research or work

[thetruthc32]

lead by example, when his gains stop and urs keep going , hell get the picture

[Hazard]

take his fvcking gear and hide it man! simple. your his bro, and he is about to do harm to himself! If he is this life long loyal friend you are saying he is dont listen to these dudes telling you to just let him hurt himself! Take action! If he has beef, whats a little blood between the ones we love? beat his fat ass up for not having common sense. Every now and again when me or one of my close bros shits the proverbial bed of life, we wait till your not looking and either chin check you or punch you in the back of the head and when you turn and look at that person you get told "you KNOW why!". He needs his awareness heightened.

I wouldn't hangout with you without a helmet and a baseball bat......

~Haz~

[HitIt]

show him this thread?

[upperhandy]

show him some pics of guys with mad acne and gyno and see if he gets the idea