1st Cycle & 1st Question - Please critique

**Times Roman** · 06-03-2010, 07:41 AM

220lbs
6'
48 yrs
mild bf (no gut)
It's been 10 yrs since last 4 year effort

background so I don't get slammed:
due to age, I've been progressively getting into this
dieting / supplementing 2 years (finally, correct ratios of carbs, protein and fat [didn't get it right the first time] - meal freq = 5 or 6 per day)
walk/jog 1 to 2 times daily min 20 minutes 2 years
progressive strength training 1 year (free weights)
excellent bp (rest=62) cholesterol = OK, no meds necessary
goals = open ended, I just enjoy exercising, like a zen thing
previous competitive runner = can't seriously run (knees) = not too worried about overall weight so long as it is lbm

please critique my first (in process) cycle
and just as a fyi, no pinning in my family oriented household since wife/kids would get the wrong idea, which limits me to orals only. I know.. I know..

to begin with, recent (1 year ago) blood work reveals a healthy functioning liver, but due to age, I'm shooting for short and quick cycles to allow my liver some recovery

wks 1-4 anadrol 100mg ed
wks 5-6 winnie 50mg ed
wks 1-8 anavar 40mg 2x ed
wks 7-10 nolva

thoughts? suggestions? kick my asz?

**Times Roman** · 06-03-2010, 07:43 AM

work out consists of 90 min / day x 5 days, focusing on 1 muscle group / day per week observing 3 sets with reps of 15/10/5 based on proper weight and failure.

**HawaiianPride.** · 06-03-2010, 08:43 AM

That cycle is not liver friendly. Even with liver support and your give stats/age, your running a higher risk of liver damage/stress.

Have you considered Testosterone ?

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 06-03-2010, 08:48 AM

are you afraid to inject? You will shut down your natural testosterone production with that cycle. If you are married, your wife might not like that. I highly recommend using testosterone and dropping anavar . Otherwise, your only oral-only option would be anavar on it's own

**Times Roman** · 06-03-2010, 10:51 AM

for liver support, running 2gms NAC ed. off the booze and no tylenol. bro's... h3ll no! not afraid of a little pin. If I had a way to pin on the down low, I would. Been talking to the wife about HGH down the road, warming her up to the idea of pinning that way. Full access to Cialis, all I can get my hands on, so no issues there. Yes, considered Test. Have access to that too. But not now. Decisions like this cannot be made in a vacuum, and me hitting the restroom with my gear to pin isn't something that would be looked upon favorably by the family. So given the risks to liver and precautions I'm taking, and the libido thing, no comments on the phasing on the anadrol /winnie? Duration of cycle? I guess given my circumstances, being less than optimal, please critique on what I can do in my universe... I already know what I should be doing under ideal conditions.

**Matt** · 06-03-2010, 11:08 AM

First cycle should be a standard test only cycle, id spend some time doing more research before using...

**danielli** · 06-03-2010, 12:42 PM

From what I've gathered (I am no expert, just researching now too for a possible cycle this summer) the best first cycle is a basic Test E cycle. 9 times out of 10 you're going to read that as the reply to these types of posts every day.

However, if for whatever reason, you are limited to an oral only, you should do a search (this and other similar ones) for anavar and/or Tbol only cycles. There are some very recent threads that have some different views and it seems that if you were to do an oral only cycle, it is recommended to limit it to Var or Tbol only. In either case, you'll need your PCT as well.

Again, I have NOT cycled, so I am not claiming to be an expert or speaking from personal experience, so take it with a grain of salt. But if you think it is worth a look; chime in on those other threads and they'll probably be pretty helpful.

Best of luck to you bro.

**Times Roman** · 06-03-2010, 02:32 PM

muchos gracias amigo!

**MuscleCommand** · 06-03-2010, 10:27 PM

Even if your liver tests came back healthy before, dropping that many orals will screw it up, especially one after the other. You really should rethink using at all if you don't want to pin. test out of the gate is the way to go IMO.

There is always a nook and cranny to hide your gear/supplies. Put it next to the porn collection in the locked box. They won't find it.

**migs03** · 06-04-2010, 12:49 AM

OP, if your goals are not to get huge just too add some solid lbm have you considered any prohormones or designer steroids ?Look into the turinabol muscle stack by primordial performance. With a good diet and training you could add a solid 7-10 imo.Plus the stack comes w/everything pct,liver support,and dhea to help with libido and energy.

**Times Roman** · 06-04-2010, 06:55 AM

Muscle Command. Yes, Yes. Always nooks and crannies to hide things. Not worried about that. I'm thinking of that little "left over" vial of test that has to go in the fridge. I guess I could mix every time so no leftovers, but what a pain! Hmmm.... nooks and crannies.... you guys are starting to persuade me.

Migs03. I've done the prohormone thing already (DHEA/Predna) with Gamma O. Also the HGH secretagues (Agrinine & GABA before bed / Glutamine when you wake). My diet / training is alreay good. Prob is my age. At 48, I have to work out twice as hard to see half the results. Plus it's a mutha to get BF where it needs to be. My body is starting to talk to me. I had pretty decent results last time after four years, but that was ten years ago before all the hormonal decline. Now the clock is ticking. I could go the four years again, but hormonal levels will drop even more, so now four turns to six, and down the rabbit hole it goes. I'm thinking prohormones is a young mans route. You can give your body all the buillding blocks it needs to make hormone, but now matter what you do, there is an upward limit how much your body will decide to make, irregardless of all the coaxing. The rest goes in the toilet.