New; Needing Advice

**Brad70** · 06-04-2010, 01:33 PM

i guess i can just give my stats on here, and maybe it will get me in the right direction. However im wanting to get start steroids ASAP and need some major help.

Im going to try my best to get this out while abiding by the "rules"

Im 20 years old, 6'4" and weight about 173lbs. Right now i lift every other day and am taking protein, and creatine. I pretty much have 0 body fat, im quite toned. I love lifting, but i hate that i cant really put on weight. Senior yr of high school i got up to 190 but that was after 2 years of solid lifting. I would kill to be in the 220 range.

Im not looking to be a body builder, or anything even close. I simply would like to get bigger, so im not needing the most hardcore complex steroids out there. I want the opposite. I want the safest, i read a little about Primobolan inject. and thought maybe that would sound good. I have no problem with the injections, but like i said i want the steroids that are least likely to harm me( receding hairline, breast development, hair growth on chest/back, i know in todays day and age there have to be some pretty decent steroids that wont cause alot of these nasty effects. Especially since its purly recreational and for my own benefit, it doesnt have to be to hardcore, just something to add some size to me. Ive also looked at the "legal Steroids " on the site and the Mass stack, consisting of D-anabol 25, Tren 75, and Deca 200 looks good, but im a newb and am unsure. However those look like pills and ive read the pills are alot harder on kidneys so i think id prefer and inj.

Also, i dont plan on using long, most likely 6weeks, give or take a little. \

Please experinced users input only. Steroids are serious and im trying to learn as much as i can before starting.

**Matt** · 06-04-2010, 01:37 PM

Imo your far to young with alot of natural growing left to do..

I do however feel you may need alot of work with your diet, why not post it in the diet forum and we can start there..

**Brad70** · 06-04-2010, 01:46 PM

It varies alot day to day, but i have it in the range of 220g of protein per day. Lifting every other day. And more growing, im already 6'4"

**Matt** · 06-04-2010, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by Brad70

It varies alot day to day, but i have it in the range of 220g of protein per day. Lifting every other day. And more growing, im already 6'4"

I didnt mean height...

**Brad70** · 06-04-2010, 01:51 PM

all my older siblings are just skinny and tall. You think im going to grow wider?

**Cotto333** · 06-04-2010, 01:53 PM

Wish people would leave the age thing out of it. The guy is obviously set on taking something so instead of shunning him off, why give him the advice he needs but say to him that you wouldnt reccomend him taking it.
At least that way he wont go of and talk to some randomer who no experience and wont have as much risk of killing himself.

**gixxerboy1** · 06-04-2010, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by Brad70

all my older siblings are just skinny and tall. You think im going to grow wider?

if you eat more.

You are only the weight you are because of what you eat. If you eat more you have to put on weight either muscle or fat. If you eating for 170lbs your arent going to get to 200lbs cycle or not.

**gixxerboy1** · 06-04-2010, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by Cotto333

Wish people would leave the age thing out of it. The guy is obviously set on taking something so instead of shunning him off, why give him the advice he needs but say to him that you wouldnt reccomend him taking it.
At least that way he wont go of and talk to some randomer who no experience and wont have as much risk of killing himself.

so you rather give bad advice then the truth?

He is young and underweight for his height. Steroids arent the solution to his problem.

**Matt** · 06-04-2010, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by Cotto333

Wish people would leave the age thing out of it. The guy is obviously set on taking something so instead of shunning him off, why give him the advice he needs but say to him that you wouldnt reccomend him taking it.
At least that way he wont go of and talk to some randomer who no experience and wont have as much risk of killing himself.

This is how we do things here, if you dont like that then there are many other boards out there for you...

If you look at his stats you will clearly see he needs diet help, why would you replace food with aas???

Or would you like him to throw his money awy for the next few years before he realises his diet is poor....

He has been given the best advice possible...

**Cotto333** · 06-04-2010, 02:02 PM

No but tell him the correct way to cycle, then say but I wouldnt reccomend you to start anything untill your a bit older. I would reccomend changing your diet and calorie intake blah blah blah.........

**Matt** · 06-04-2010, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

so you rather give bad advice then the truth?

He is young and underweight for his height. Steroids arent the solution to his problem.

Its newbies wanting us to do things their way.

If i had a £1 for everyone we turned away from aas to concentrate on diet and training id be rich...

**gixxerboy1** · 06-04-2010, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Cotto333

No but tell him the correct way to cycle, then say but I wouldnt reccomend you to start anything untill your a bit older. I would reccomend changing your diet and calorie intake blah blah blah.........

you dont get it. There is no correct way to cycle if his diet is that bad.

Let me tell you the correct way to put a turbo on your car that has a bad transmission.

**bjpennnn** · 06-04-2010, 02:04 PM

check out this link this should be a good start for you So you wanna learn how to Diet?

**Cotto333** · 06-04-2010, 02:05 PM

That prevents him from going else where to get the advice he came for. He wanted advice on how to do a cycle. No if some one is adament they are going to take something, if you dont help they will go some where else. So I think its best if you guys know what you are talking about, give him the information he wants. I know his diet need work but you giving the information he needs could prevent him listening to some divvy and risking his life.
Just tell him how to cycle what to take, then tell him you would not reccoment traking it yet though as he is too young and could do other thing like changing his diet or routine before starting AAS.

**Cotto333** · 06-04-2010, 02:08 PM

At lest that way you are answering his question, stating the risks, and then offering a safe alternative.

Doing it your way, he could go some where esle, get some bad advice and could destroy his body.

**Matt** · 06-04-2010, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by Cotto333

That prevents him from going else where to get the advice he came for. He wanted advice on how to do a cycle. No if some one is adament they are going to take something, if you dont help they will go some where else. So I think its best if you guys know what you are talking about, give him the information he wants. I know his diet need work but you giving the information he needs could prevent him listening to some divvy and risking his life.
Just tell him how to cycle what to take, then tell him you would not reccoment traking it yet though as he is too young and could do other thing like changing his diet or routine before starting AAS.

As ive said, thats not how we do things here. Period...

**Cotto333** · 06-04-2010, 02:09 PM

I understand but you have to admit, that he could be worse off listening to some inexperienced bum in the gym.

**Cotto333** · 06-04-2010, 02:11 PM

http://www.steroid.com/

Download the book on the homepage, its very usefull for beginners.

**gixxerboy1** · 06-04-2010, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by Cotto333

I understand but you have to admit, that he could be worse off listening to some inexperienced bum in the gym.

I'm not giving someone bad advice on the fear someone else might give them worse advice. If they listen to my bad advice then it on me. If they choice not to listen to the truth then that's on them.

Like 007 said thats how we do it here.

**gixxerboy1** · 06-04-2010, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by Cotto333

http://www.steroid.com/

Download the book on the homepage, its very usefull for beginners.

where do you draw the line? 6'4 and 170lbs yea he could juice. what if its a 15 year old? Still going to give him advice?

**Cotto333** · 06-04-2010, 02:25 PM

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**Brad70** · 06-04-2010, 02:55 PM

well like i said, im eating around 220g of protein, i have a fast metabolism, ive even fasted a couple of times to slow it down a bit, one time for 36 and one for 48 hrs. each time i put on 5 or 6lbs. Im interested in Primobolan Injct.

**gixxerboy1** · 06-04-2010, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by Brad70

well like i said, im eating around 220g of protein, i have a fast metabolism, ive even fasted a couple of times to slow it down a bit, one time for 36 and one for 48 hrs. each time i put on 5 or 6lbs. Im interested in Primobolan Injct.

You may have a fast metabolism. But you have to eat more. 220g of protein means nothing. If you eat more you will gain weight either fat or muscle.

Primo will do nothing if your only eating enough to support 170lbs

**Brad70** · 06-06-2010, 12:27 PM

Ok, well thanks for all the tips, im working on eating constantly. I do have a very high metabolisim and have tried slowing it down, but thats easier said then done.

- I wont use anything for awhile till i see what i do with some diet changes, however i still am interested in what Primobolan can do for me, even if now isnt the ideal time for me to take it. Id like to know for future refrence.