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    Getting ready for my cycle...need some tips.

    Okay so I don't know if you guys remember me, but I was getting ready to run Spawn almost a year ago, but I wasn't ready physically. My stats around September of last year were as follows: (copied from my old thread)

    age:20
    stats: 5'10; 265lbs
    bf: ~26%
    goals: 215lbs, 10%bf, hulk.

    Now they are:

    Age:21
    Stats: 5'11; 229 (this morning after facility use :P)
    Bf: 16% (yesterday morning)
    Goals: Beast mode

    I'm going to drop to about 13-14%bf before I start my cycle.

    Currently, I'm running lipo-6x to shed more fat (it's been great to me these past 2 weeks). Here is the list of supplements I'm on...

    Current supplements:
    Oriange Triad (multi vit)
    Life support (liver protection, been using for almost a week now)
    Milk thistle (liver protection, been using for almost a week now)
    Liv52 as an alternative (not dosing, just have it on hand)
    USPlab's Jack3d
    Scivation's XTEND

    For PCT I plan on running Nolva for a 40/40/20/20. Should I take it while cycling spawn? Would Clomid be better? What should I have ON-HAND aside from what I already have? I haven't picked up my PCT yet, so I wanted to know if it would be okay.

    Also, should I not use jack3d and xtend while cycling spawn?
    Should I cycle anything WHILE I'm on spawn that I'm not already taking?

    I figure it'll be another 3-4 weeks to drop another 10 lbs clean and maybe even get down to about 12% bf...but I just want to be prepared informatively before I do this.

    I'll also be getting blood work done before and during my cycle to make sure everything is in check.

    Any and all help is appreciated thanks guys!

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    So, your goal on your very first cycle is to drop bf%?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgb6810 View Post
    So, your goal on your very first cycle is to drop bf%?
    umm....no.
    Where did you get that idea?

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    why don't you tell us what your diet is now and how you plan on changing it to accommodate your cycle... that way we can see if you have that in check.

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    you want a tip hugh....
    DONT MESS WITH YOURE HORMONES YET.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slippz View Post
    umm....no.
    Where did you get that idea?
    You state your goals are:goals: 215lbs, 10%bf, hulk.

    And this is where you want to start your cycle:I'm going to drop to about 13-14%bf before I start my cycle.

    You need to pick either bulk or cut. Trying to do both is more then difficult. This is your first cycle?

    How long have you been weight training?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JScondition View Post
    why don't you tell us what your diet is now and how you plan on changing it to accommodate your cycle... that way we can see if you have that in check.
    Should I post it in this thread or make another?
    Also, should I post out my workout for the cycle to see if it needs to be critiqued?

    Quote Originally Posted by cgb6810 View Post
    You state your goals are:goals: 215lbs, 10%bf, hulk.

    And this is where you want to start your cycle:I'm going to drop to about 13-14%bf before I start my cycle.

    You need to pick either bulk or cut. Trying to do both is more then difficult. This is your first cycle?

    How long have you been weight training?
    Well, I understand where you're coming from...but if you look, those were my previous goals when I didn't know what I was doing. My current stats are updated with the updated goals as well, albeit vague, updated nonetheless.

    I read that starting cycles at high body fats aren't good, so that's why I'm cutting. Once I reach 12-14%bf, THEN I'm going to bulk up. I plan on putting on at least a lean 10-15lbs in a month. I'm not going to keep cutting while I'm on Spawn. And yes, it's my first cycle.

    I've been on and off for 5 years, but only started being serious within the last year. 30lbs of clean fat loss is great progress for me, and that's while I was still learning and seeing what worked.

    Now that my cutting diet is in check, I've been losing about 1-2lbs a week clean.

    Quote Originally Posted by gymmonster View Post
    you want a tip hugh....
    DONT MESS WITH YOURE HORMONES YET.
    I've been preparing for this for almost a year and a half... I listened to your guys' advice when you guys said NOT to take it with my current stats. After all this time preparing with more research and dedicated training, I feel I'm ready to do this. I ask that you don't try to turn me away from this, but that you guys help me and critique the plan since most of you guys that will be offering advice are more experienced with this.

    We all had a first cycle, and this is going to be mine. I'd like to ask that you guys respect my decision.

    Thank you for all the help. Keep it coming!

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    post your diet,and cardio please.

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    your goals are obtainable without AAS. BUT if your not gonna change yourmind.. keep asking questions and doo ALOT of research please

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    Please show me where someone told you that it would be fine to cycle in a year and a half???
    Do not ask me for a source check.






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    Quote Originally Posted by AZGOLDSMEMBER86 View Post
    post your diet,and cardio please.
    Will have it up by tonight.

    Quote Originally Posted by AZGOLDSMEMBER86 View Post
    your goals are obtainable without AAS. BUT if your not gonna change yourmind.. keep asking questions and doo ALOT of research please
    Thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    Please show me where someone told you that it would be fine to cycle in a year and a half???
    Nowhere, but people made the assumption that I was jumping into it too fast, and I felt that you guys were right. So, I took a step back, decided what it was that I wanted to do and what were my future long term goals, and re-decided that this is the path I want to take. It took me a year and a half to make this decision, so you can't say I'm jumping into it too fast :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by slippz View Post
    Will have it up by tonight.


    Thank you.



    Nowhere, but people made the assumption that I was jumping into it too fast, and I felt that you guys were right. So, I took a step back, decided what it was that I wanted to do and what were my future long term goals, and re-decided that this is the path I want to take. It took me a year and a half to make this decision, so you can't say I'm jumping into it too fast :P
    cool, just make sure you have everything on hand before you start, diet, training,cycle pct,AIs, ya know,? but imo, id wait. but ill keep a look out for your diet and cardio,especially if you wanna drop b.f.%- goodluck

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    Quote Originally Posted by slippz View Post
    Okay so I don't know if you guys remember me, but I was getting ready to run Spawn almost a year ago, but I wasn't ready physically. My stats around September of last year were as follows: (copied from my old thread)

    age:20
    stats: 5'10; 265lbs
    bf: ~26%
    goals: 215lbs, 10%bf, hulk.

    Now they are:

    Age:21
    Stats: 5'11; 229 (this morning after facility use :P)
    Bf: 16% (yesterday morning)
    Goals: Beast mode

    I'm going to drop to about 13-14%bf before I start my cycle.

    Currently, I'm running lipo-6x to shed more fat (it's been great to me these past 2 weeks). Here is the list of supplements I'm on...

    Current supplements:
    Oriange Triad (multi vit)
    Life support (liver protection, been using for almost a week now)
    Milk thistle (liver protection, been using for almost a week now)
    Liv52 as an alternative (not dosing, just have it on hand)
    USPlab's Jack3d
    Scivation's XTEND

    For PCT I plan on running Nolva for a 40/40/20/20. Should I take it while cycling spawn? Would Clomid be better? What should I have ON-HAND aside from what I already have? I haven't picked up my PCT yet, so I wanted to know if it would be okay.

    Also, should I not use jack3d and xtend while cycling spawn?
    Should I cycle anything WHILE I'm on spawn that I'm not already taking?

    I figure it'll be another 3-4 weeks to drop another 10 lbs clean and maybe even get down to about 12% bf...but I just want to be prepared informatively before I do this.

    I'll also be getting blood work done before and during my cycle to make sure everything is in check.

    Any and all help is appreciated thanks guys!


    and that's also your goal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slippz View Post
    Okay so I don't know if you guys remember me, but I was getting ready to run Spawn almost a year ago, but I wasn't ready physically. My stats around September of last year were as follows: (copied from my old thread)

    age:20
    stats: 5'10; 265lbs
    bf: ~26%
    goals: 215lbs, 10%bf, hulk.

    Now they are:

    Age:21
    Stats: 5'11; 229 (this morning after facility use :P)
    Bf: 16% (yesterday morning)
    Goals: Beast mode

    I'm going to drop to about 13-14%bf before I start my cycle.

    Currently, I'm running lipo-6x to shed more fat (it's been great to me these past 2 weeks). Here is the list of supplements I'm on...

    Current supplements:
    Oriange Triad (multi vit)
    Life support (liver protection, been using for almost a week now)
    Milk thistle (liver protection, been using for almost a week now)
    Liv52 as an alternative (not dosing, just have it on hand)
    USPlab's Jack3d
    Scivation's XTEND

    For PCT I plan on running Nolva for a 40/40/20/20. Should I take it while cycling spawn? Would Clomid be better? What should I have ON-HAND aside from what I already have? I haven't picked up my PCT yet, so I wanted to know if it would be okay.

    Also, should I not use jack3d and xtend while cycling spawn?
    Should I cycle anything WHILE I'm on spawn that I'm not already taking?

    I figure it'll be another 3-4 weeks to drop another 10 lbs clean and maybe even get down to about 12% bf...but I just want to be prepared informatively before I do this.

    I'll also be getting blood work done before and during my cycle to make sure everything is in check.

    Any and all help is appreciated thanks guys!
    You're too young to be messing with gear.

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    ^^^^agree. Spend some time training with a proper diet in place and see how well you do for 2-3 years. It takes time to build a quality physique.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgb6810 View Post
    ^^^^agree. Spend some time training with a proper diet in place and see how well you do for 2-3 years. It takes time to build a quality physique.
    Does spawn have an expiration date? Cuz I've had it for like a year+ now lolol.

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