Orals sucks

[Jaakoppi]

I used 4 weeks Methanox 20mg/day and it seems that all I did get from that was some strenght and water retention. I stopped Methanox week ago and my weight has dropped 3 pounds if I'm eating like a pig.

[vBRAH]

What was your PCT?

[Jaakoppi]

I also used test e 400-500mg/week for 6 weeks. I used my HCG 250mg/ED fo 10 days. Now I'm going to take some Nolvadex.

[yannick35]

Note a fan or orals myself, my friend did dianabol for 10 weeks at 30mg a day, he got some huge stomach upsets, acid reflux and more, is gains where very impressive tough.

Now he is doing winstrol tabs and he gained nothing.

Injections are the best they dont pass true the liver.

[russiandave]

Test e for six weeks is wayyyyy too shirt. You need to do more reading

[gymnerd]

Could be an issue with yer diet to bro? First if methanox is dbol? 20mg is a tiny dose and not going to give you much-what did you expect off that 20lbs of lean muscle?

[dec11]

test e for only 6wks? total waste and poorly planned cycle. do it right next time and dont throw your money away

[*RAGE*]

test e for only 6wks? total waste and poorly planned cycle. do it right next time and dont throw your money away

Agreed

[Vitruvian-Man]

Orals don't suck. Your cycle just sucked.

That's the bottom line.

-VM

[vBRAH]

Well said

[Jaakoppi]

test e for only 6wks? total waste and poorly planned cycle. do it right next time and dont throw your money away

Yeah I agree it also.

[Kibble]

Orals are incredible for quick strength and size gains. They are just a poor decision for stand-alone cycles. Oral steroids reach their prime around weeks 3-6. From then on, the strength and size gains come to a slow creep. But the negative side effects still come hard.

I ran dbol at 50mg/ed and hated the sides. I said I would never use it again. But now that I am armed with more knowledge (from s.com), I know how to mitigate the side effects. My only answer to you would be to research.

Oral steroids do pass through the liver, but they make it into the bloodstream because of the 17a. But some orals can have serious adverse effects on kidney and liver function, as well as blood pressure and cholesterol levels. So it is best to keep oral steroids to a moderate dose and length.

OP, you just need to research a bit more. Nobody starts in the AAS game knowing everything

[Jaakoppi]

But some orals can have serious adverse effects on kidney and liver function, as well as blood pressure and cholesterol levels.

That's why I haven't used so much orals because I've wanted to be careful with sides etc. Maybe I'll try with a little bigger doses next time.
Anyway I've got those orals left, but I thought I shouldn't use them ONLY. Now I'm just going to keep break with steroids and try again with better knowledge. I also have to check a new diet plan for me.

[anabolic1979]

just use them in moderation and they are fine. sounds like the dbol u were using was ugl dbol prob low quality