First cycle results

[no1tou]

HOLY Deltoids batman !! ! I think a good portion of it landed on your traps, arms, delts and thickened your chest like an aunt jamayma pancake. Great results for a first cycle, period. Most first cycles wouldn't have been so lean of a gain. You def. lost some fat, gained a ton a vascularity too. Abs are bad ass...let's get those obliques to match (you be strokin your woman way too much!...but then again *pops*) hHHhaahaha

Glad to be of service

- Chemical Adi

Lol! Thanks! I'm not sure why my shoulders blew up so much. It was the first thing I noticed. Week 4 I could already tell the difference in my shoulders and my strength matched.

I'm still eating over maintenance to make sure I keep as much as possible but it seems I'm still loosing fat. Which is good but I just want to make sure I eat enough.

[Rex9933]

shoulders blew up because of genetics dude

[The.Student]

Great results man, keep up the good work!

[ThatGuyYeahHim]

man if that tat on your left wrist wasnt the same id swear those pics were fake.
F' me... fkn great gains. So jealous right now. Thought I was making some good gains ...
Can we ban this dude for depressing some of us? :P
Despite the 20odd pound gain dude... *jealous* I dont know what to say *walks off and kicks a cat*

[ThatGuyYeahHim]

ive prob gained about 15 pounds so far and dont look anywhere near as ripped as you do .. esp when compared to that 1st photo. That 1st photo looks like youve been lifting for a week or two.

Meh sorry.. just jealous and impressed as.

PS, I hate you.

[no1tou]

man if that tat on your left wrist wasnt the same id swear those pics were fake.
F' me... fkn great gains. So jealous right now. Thought I was making some good gains ...
Can we ban this dude for depressing some of us? :P
Despite the 20odd pound gain dude... *jealous* I dont know what to say *walks off and kicks a cat*

Lmao! Thanks dude.

[Necrosaro]

Awesome gains dude

[ThatGuyYeahHim]

Grrr... that wasnt supposed to be a compliment. Im going to find 5 angry guys at a club and take them on with roid rage .... that'll make me feel better!
j/k

[ThatGuyYeahHim]

Ok seriously we all note/ are jealous that this dude has made some fkn made gains.

But, aside from that... does everyone else get such gains? Or many? It took me 10 yrs to get from like 110 to 180 before i started my cycle (several weeks ago) and im at 198 currently.
Im glad you got results I dream of.. but do many/any others get such results from a 1st cycle?
I dont know the dudes full stats, but it seems his diet is in check and he knows how to lift and Im guessing has the right genetics... but honestly if everyone is getting such gains either im doing something wrong.

(like i said in prev posts, gained over 18 pounds so far and AM definitely bigger... people have noticed... but F me.. those are some serious gains)

[ThatGuyYeahHim]

*bump* just woke up feeling so depressed. Im hating this op so much right now. Thought it was just last night but it was the first thing I thought of when I woke up. Before injecting even.
So yeah... anyone else not quite receiving results as good as OP? Or is my gear bunk?
Someone just say "yeah thats a great effort.. wish i came close"! ... *waits*

[shafts basson]

You can't compare his gains to yours. Everybody is different from genetics, level beforehand gear, diet, goals etc. He did blow up but don't let that ruin your confidence. Just keep on keepin on

BTW inspiring gains OP!

[shafts basson]

Edit: sorry double post

[Td00]

Hey, hows that PCT going?

How's the mood?
Focus (or concentration at activities that require it, eg: maths)?
How much muscle have you kept so far?
Libido?

[tazmaniac1]

Surplus. I was eating 4400 cals a day for most of the cycle but after talking to Fireguy in the diet section I found a way to lower my cals to about 4000 a day and get better results. I had to reduce my protein intake cause I was taking in 450-550gms a day. I knew it was too much but I was always hungry and I figured if I was gonna eat too much of something protein would be the best bet. I also increased my fat intake by a good 60-80gm a day to a total of 150gm a day. This helped me grow.

what the hell did you eat for that much protein could you give examples, tried to eat that much I puke and I am 240lbs 6'4...impressive results bro

[no1tou]

Hey, hows that PCT going?

How's the mood?
Focus (or concentration at activities that require it, eg: maths)?
How much muscle have you kept so far?
Libido?

Thanks again guys!

Mood is fine.
Focus is still on point. Getting ready to hit the gym in a few and I pumped.
So far weight is the same and Mon lifts were good with no drop in strenght yet.
I actually seem to still be leaning out a bit. Abs were more define this morning.
Libido went down a hair at the end of the cycle but nothing major. Just not in the mood but can still get it up anytime. I used to want it all the time so definitely not back to norm yet.

Oh and I'm sure you guys can tell this but the first pic I'm not flexing at all so I may appear to be smaller. So when comparing the before and after pics maybe it looks more dramatic? Either way I definitely got some great gains I never would have imagined possible.

[no1tou]

what the hell did you eat for that much protein could you give examples, tried to eat that much I puke and I am 240lbs 6'4...impressive results bro

I was eating all kinds of meat. Especially natural turkey jerkey. Lots of protien, no fat, no carbs. Also TONS of egg whites and plain chicken breasts. Too much in fact I got sick of them and had to resort to more steak, beef, fish, and pork. Everything I bought was from a whole foods store like trader joes or whole foods. Low sodium, low fat, natural everything. Got expensive but I liked it.

Also I got high protein bread 7g a slice and had natty pb sandwhiches once evey other day maybe more. A good bowl of fat free cottage cheese every night before bed.

I will post a sample of my diet before I fixed it.

[no1tou]

cal/fat/carbs/protein

Meal #1 6:20am

1 banana-200/1/51/2
1 cup egg whites-117/0/2/26
Great Grains-Raisin, Dates & Pecans Whole Grain Cereal (Post Selects)
Serving Size: 3/4 cup (54g), Calories: 210/4.5/40/4
Fish oil
(527/5.5/93/32)

Meal #2 9:00am

2 1/2lb turkey slice sandwiches on wheat-***/9/68/131
1 bag of Natural Turkey Jerky-240/0/24/44
(1143/9/92/175)

Meal #3 11am

Two 6oz skinless chicken brests-440/5/0/100
1 cup sweet potato-212/6/37/3.6
(652/11/37/103.6)


Meal #4 1:30pm

2 Two 6oz skinless chicken brests-440/5/0/100
1 cup brown rice-216/2/45/5
(656/7/45/105)

Meal #5 4:30pm

2 Two 6oz skinless chicken brests-440/5/0/100
1 cup brown rice-216/2/45/5

7pm Snack before gym

Nature Valley Chewy Trail Mix Bar-140/4/25/3
(796/11/70/108)

Meal #6 9:00pm (post workout)

Monster Milk-320/9/14/45
(320/9/14/45)

Meal #7 9:30pm

Flaxseed oil
1 8oz grilled lean pork chop (fat cut off)-314/10/0/34
1/2 cup cottage cheese-70/0/5/13
(384/10/5/47)

10pm bed time

Total:
Cal/fat/carbs/protein
(4478/62.5/343/615.6)

Funny thing was I wasn't gaining much weight on this diet. After cutting some of the meat and adding some fat via natty pb, some less lean meats, and more efa's I started growing much faster.

[no1tou]

Oh and appetite is still crazy!

[Td00]

How much did you wait from the last shot till starting PCT?

[tazmaniac1]

Oh and appetite is still crazy!

I am going to have to find turkey jerkey thay would be a good snack filler maybe on line thanks for the post that is a killer diet dont think i can do that time is going to be the hardest..but good info

[no1tou]

How much did you wait from the last shot till starting PCT?

14 days but I was on oral tren for those 14days and I started pct the next day after the oral tren.

[Td00]

Thanks for the quick replies!

[nwjt]

How much did that diet costs? Holy crap!

[no1tou]

How much did that diet costs? Holy crap!

Too much!

[no1tou]

Just got back from the gym and I got a new best! Man I was killin it in there today! I felt really good today. I guess cause I got a lot of sleep and didn't do much today so I had lots of energy.

Have not lost any weight. I hope this keeps up.

[ThatGuyYeahHim]

All good.
Got back into the gym after eating like crazy the last 2 days.
Really smashed it. Using your gains as motivation to increase food and also increasing lifting weight even more and felt pretty awesome.

PS while the food can be expensive, Ive found if you buy it in bulk from big butchers and prepare it yourself (remove fat, marinate etc) or cook soups/stews then store in individual zip lock backs its far cheaper and easier and healthy!

[no1tou]

All good.
Got back into the gym after eating like crazy the last 2 days.
Really smashed it. Using your gains as motivation to increase food and also increasing lifting weight even more and felt pretty awesome.

PS while the food can be expensive, Ive found if you buy it in bulk from big butchers and prepare it yourself (remove fat, marinate etc) or cook soups/stews then store in individual zip lock backs its far cheaper and easier and healthy!

Good idea.

[no1tou]

Yo, lost my phone brother. Email me asap at [email protected] me your number!

Sent

[no1tou]

Week 2 of PCT and yesterday in the gym confirmed I'm still making gains. So far so good.

[nwjt]

Nice! I wonder if all the esters have worked thier way out yet. Intersted in 30 days out.

Have you noticed any change in appearance at all? How about mood etc.

[mikey24]

Did you use Hcg ?

[no1tou]

Nice! I wonder if all the esters have worked thier way out yet. Intersted in 30 days out.

Have you noticed any change in appearance at all? How about mood etc.

I think because I haven't changed my diet yet I'm starting to put on a tiny bit of fat but I also just went on vacation and did nothing but eat and sleep.

Mood is about the same. I maybe a hair more emotional if anything.

[no1tou]

Nice! I wonder if all the esters have worked thier way out yet. Intersted in 30 days out.

Have you noticed any change in appearance at all? How about mood etc.

Yeah they should be long gone by now. It was just test e and the last pin was 6 weeks ago. I used oral tren for the 3 weeks leading up to pct.

[danielli]

cal/fat/carbs/protein

Meal #1 6:20am

1 banana-200/1/51/2
1 cup egg whites-117/0/2/26
Great Grains-Raisin, Dates & Pecans Whole Grain Cereal (Post Selects)
Serving Size: 3/4 cup (54g), Calories: 210/4.5/40/4
Fish oil
(527/5.5/93/32)

Meal #2 9:00am

2 1/2lb turkey slice sandwiches on wheat-***/9/68/131
1 bag of Natural Turkey Jerky-240/0/24/44
(1143/9/92/175)

Meal #3 11am

Two 6oz skinless chicken brests-440/5/0/100
1 cup sweet potato-212/6/37/3.6
(652/11/37/103.6)


Meal #4 1:30pm

2 Two 6oz skinless chicken brests-440/5/0/100
1 cup brown rice-216/2/45/5
(656/7/45/105)

Meal #5 4:30pm

2 Two 6oz skinless chicken brests-440/5/0/100
1 cup brown rice-216/2/45/5

7pm Snack before gym

Nature Valley Chewy Trail Mix Bar-140/4/25/3
(796/11/70/108)

Meal #6 9:00pm (post workout)

Monster Milk-320/9/14/45
(320/9/14/45)

Meal #7 9:30pm

Flaxseed oil
1 8oz grilled lean pork chop (fat cut off)-314/10/0/34
1/2 cup cottage cheese-70/0/5/13
(384/10/5/47)

10pm bed time

Total:
Cal/fat/carbs/protein
(4478/62.5/343/615.6)

Funny thing was I wasn't gaining much weight on this diet. After cutting some of the meat and adding some fat via natty pb, some less lean meats, and more efa's I started growing much faster.

Awesome results man!!!

if you don't mind, do you have the final diet that yiou can post ?

[endurojerz]

Great gains bro. Nice work.

[no1tou]

Awesome results man!!!

if you don't mind, do you have the final diet that yiou can post ?

I never typed it back up and saved it. I just crossed things out and wrote in down on my diet sheets.

[no1tou]

Thanks guys. Well another good day in the gym but something was brought to my attention today. I was working on my friend's Jeep all day in the heat and I got so caught up in it, along with the heat, I forgot to eat. I'm sure most of it is water weight but I lost 3lbs. I am going to make sure that never happens again. Surprisingly it didn't effect me in the gym today. Just scary to think how quick I drop weight if I don't stay on top of my diet.

[stevey_6t9]

lol oooo

[no1tou]

yeah mate ive trained with successful plifters for years, natural gains like tht are highly highly unlikely unless one was some sort of genetic freak!! if we could gain like that aas would be kinda void lol.

are you managing to keep your diet up to scratch thru pct?

Yeah keeping my weight up and so far maintaining my strength. I feel really good and my libido and energy level are 100%.

[dec11]

Yeah keeping my weight up and so far maintaining my strength. I feel really good and my libido and energy level are 100%.

good going, i always found my appetite dwindled during pct and found it hard to eat, trt put a stop to that lol. if your not doing so already, you should consider creatine hmb and zma now, i found 'em a big help.