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    1st cycle questions

    I'm hoping to start my first cycle in the next few weeks and had a couple of questions. I'm going to start with test e only. I could do 10 weeks at 500mg, or I thought about 12 weeks with 250mg at the beginning and the end. I'm not looking to get freaky big, but at 34 I just want to have some of the ability I used to have in the gym.

    My main concern is PCT. Right now being sterile sounds fun as I recently found out my 3rd kid in 3 years is on the way. I do understand that it's all about getting natural test back. What's the minimum PCT I can get away with the test e cycle? I do prefer nolva to l-dex or another inhibitor for cholesterol reasons. I've real a lot on here and there are a handful of suggestions with the least seeming to be clomid and nolva. I wasn't going to go that route due to the sides I read for clomid, but it may be my best option.


    Are there any downsides to running finastride 1mg ed? I don't have a lot of hair left and would like to keep what I have!


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    there is a lot of info on the top of this page in the sticky section check it out and follow that protocol.

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    That's exactly what I'm talking about. I've read all the sticky's in the AAS and PCT forums and many posts. Not all of the info is consistent, because there are differing and opposing opinions. For example the one of the sticky's above for beginner cycle site "Pheendo's PCT http://forums.steroid .com/showthread.php?t=94626" The link is to a sticky states: 1. Day 1-30- .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva. The sticky also has another protocol which appears to be from anthony roberts that inculdes 2. HCG , nolva, armoasin and vitamin E. Which is better? I looked at some of the research anthony roberts referenced (5) and noticed that one wasn't even talking about the same drug and if it was it didn't have the conclusion he says it did. I would rather go by peoples experiences than someones poor attempt to write something researched based.

    BjPennnn in a post earlier today you recommended just 3. clomid and nolva to a guy who had went 12 weeks and added dbol and tren . That is one I find a lot outside of the sticky posts. I like the idea of just two compounds, but clomid seems to have a lot of sides.

    So my question to you, BJ, would be do I follow the sticky or your advice in a thread?

    For anyone else, what is the minimum PCT you would recommend for test only 10-12 wk cycle? I really appreciate the help!
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    You can subsitute clomid for tore i believe.

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    this is a standard pct
    Day 1-18: Clomid @ 100 mgs
    Day 1-18: Nolva @ 40 mgs
    Day 18-36: Clomid @ 50 mgs
    Day 18-36: Nolva @ 20 mgs

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMB View Post
    You can subsitute clomid for tore i believe.
    Absolutely. Tore/Nolva is great.

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