Newbie Help Request

[IIreX]

Greetings, brothers.

First off, let me admit my complete ignorance in this game. I only know enough to know that I do NOT know jack squat about jack's squat.

I am in the planning stages of what I hope is only the first of many stacks I shall take to achieve physical perfection. I am looking to do a bulk cycle, before I do a shredding one.

For purposes of context, let me say that I am 28 years old, about 6"00 short, and roughly 235.4lbs with about 23% body fat percentage. My ultimate goal is to achieve about 264lbs at 10-15% bfp. Not to worry, I have no illusions about this happening overnight. I am certain I will ultimately achieve it in good time.

Now, my intended supplier of product suggested that a good beginner stack is Anavar , Tren and Deca -300. Research into the intended stack quickly showed that Tren and Deca together can easily have deliterious effects.

I would like you all to help me out with your suggestions for a relatively safe, and backlash-free mass building stack that will give me good, lean mass in about 6-8weeks. This, together with information on pre and post cycle therapy /conditioning that I may need to be mindful of.

I would humbly appreciate your assistance guys.

One.

[cobra305]

If this is your first cycle running that many compounds is not recommended. What are your complete stats
age
wt
ht
years lifting
cycle exp

[cobra305]

You need to do some research and here is a good place to start
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=368656

[IIreX]

Thanks for replying, Cobra. I've been doing the research for some time. Its actually insane how much information is out there. Inasmuch as reading is assisting with providing a framework from whence to process my thoughts and decisions, I think asking for advice from those more experienced than me would synthesize raw knowledge into a solid plan.

age: 28
wt: 235.4lbs (107kgs)
ht: 6"00 (183.5cms)
years lifting: 3 years solid
cycle exp: 6-8weeks (presuming 'exp' means 'expectation')
0 (presuming 'exp' means 'experience')

Oh, I am male, by the way.

[nilrac]

Well if you have been researching you would know that running two 19 nors without any Test is a big 'no-no'. And that for a first cycle a single compound is recommended... test. And that as a rule of thumb, Tren is considered a more advanced compound for experienced AAS users.

BTW "cycle exp" means cycle experience. Cobra was asking if you had any prior cycle experience with AAS or even pro-hormones.

6 wks for an injectable steroid is too short. 8 wks is pushing it. 10wks would be better.

[cobra305]

You should also consider lowering your bf% to 15% or so to minimize sides. 23% is on the high side you may want to head over to the diet section and get your diet in order. Having a higher bf% could increase your risk of sides.

[lovbyts]

Agreed with all the above. ALL..

Lower body fat Before considering a cycle.
Do a simple/basic cycle. NOT tren or Deca . Forget those now. Test only but not until you get your diet fixed by visiting the diet section and some good solid gym time..