14wk only eq cycle..hcg required or not

**bowly** · 06-15-2010, 10:46 AM

hey guys this is my 3rd cycle and am currently on 9th week of a 14wk eq/tbol cycle..

i started with eq 600/wk and 60mg tbol ed/6wks.and currently on 9th week of only eq 600mg cycle and have seen a reduction in my testes..

earlier had planned a 10wk cycle so did not feel a need to include hcg ..but the gains have just started getting prominent so have thought of extending the cycle to 14 wks..strange part is that the erections got stronger from the 8th wk

i understand that one needs to take hcg at 500i.u s divided into 2 shots per wk..but now that i am 9wks in ,how much hcg do i need to take from now on..

had read on some post that i need to calculate 40i.us ed till the number of days which makes it 2400i.u per week..i feel its too much..

is 500 i.u ewk ok or i need to up the hcg for the last 4 wks..

help appreciated

***D7M*** · 06-15-2010, 01:13 PM

I don't like that cycle at all.

But I think you'll be fine without HCG .

what's your planned pct?

Stats?

**Chev** · 06-15-2010, 02:48 PM

Why didnt you include test?

**marcus300** · 06-15-2010, 02:50 PM

That cycle is awful, i'd rather lick a man's arsehole than stick eq inside me.

Are you going to be doing pct?

***D7M*** · 06-15-2010, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by D7M

I don't like that cycle at all.

Originally Posted by marcus300

That cycle is awful, i'd rather lick a man's arsehole than stick eq inside me.

^Yah, THAT is what I meant to say....

**bjpennnn** · 06-15-2010, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

That cycle is awful, i'd rather lick a man's arsehole than stick eq inside me.

Are you going to be doing pct?

hahahahahahaha oh man i was waiting for this post ha.

**Knockout_Power** · 06-15-2010, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

That cycle is awful, i'd rather lick a man's arsehole than stick eq inside me.

Are you going to be doing pct?

thats actually a lot nicer than I thought you would reply regarding eq. I know you hate it included in a cycle, but running it alone must be the dumbest shite ever.

To the OP, I would include the HCG just for the hell of it. Next time around, make your cycle worthwhile and do it properly. There is nothing you could be seeing at week 9 from Eq alone that you couldnt have acquired doing the simplest test cycle for 10 weeks

**bowly** · 06-16-2010, 04:23 AM

Originally Posted by Chev

Why didnt you include test?

tried test in my first cycle..got receeding crown..am prone to gyno too,reversed it twice with adex..

must say while on test i felt amazing but due to the downsides i opted for cycles without test atleast for this one

**bowly** · 06-16-2010, 04:27 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

That cycle is awful, i'd rather lick a man's arsehole than stick eq inside me.

Are you going to be doing pct?

ha ha,,,have read this response from you quite a few times..i would now change it to a horses arse hole..he he..

but marcus i must say eq is not that bad..my waist has shrunk 2 inches and my body got real nice and lean..

test is the ultimate no doubt about it,but with 2 gynos,receeding crown i dont think i will include it in my cycles..maybe a maintenance dose of 250/week but not in the near future..

**bowly** · 06-16-2010, 04:34 AM

Originally Posted by Knockout_Power

thats actually a lot nicer than I thought you would reply regarding eq. I know you hate it included in a cycle, but running it alone must be the dumbest shite ever.

To the OP, I would include the HCG just for the hell of it. Next time around, make your cycle worthwhile and do it properly. There is nothing you could be seeing at week 9 from Eq alone that you couldnt have acquired doing the simplest test cycle for 10 weeks

i agree..but everyones goal differ from each other my friend..

i got great appetite,great stamina,lost 2 inches on waist and the lean look which i required..

i know its not worth it, in bodybuilding terms, but these other aas were made for a reason and it exists and sells for a reason..

i have tried test and its real good..but with hairline issues,gyno round the corner and complimentary bloating,i hope you will agree someone exploring a safer route even if its a bit less effective

**bowly** · 06-16-2010, 04:36 AM

Originally Posted by bjpennnn

hahahahahahaha oh man i was waiting for this post ha.

hahhahahahahahaa...hahhhahahaahaha..now lets get back to work

**bowly** · 06-16-2010, 04:43 AM

Originally Posted by D7M

I don't like that cycle at all.

But I think you'll be fine without HCG .

what's your planned pct?

Stats?

Originally Posted by D7M

^Yah, THAT is what I meant to say....

i liked ur first response better...

for pct..clomid 100/50/50/25
nolva 40/40/20/20

stats..age 37,height-5.11,wt-76kgs,bf-14percent..

**AlphaGenetics** · 06-16-2010, 07:13 AM

I just came in this thread to see what Marcus had to say. haha sry op for my noncontribution. (is that a word?)

**jayvio** · 06-16-2010, 07:44 AM

why do u hate EQ so much?

**Devil's_Advocate** · 06-16-2010, 11:51 PM

I wouldnt use EQ alone. The suppression is still there, yet no test to bump up the alpha male in you.

fak that.

**bowly** · 06-18-2010, 04:29 AM

Originally Posted by Devil's_Advocate

I wouldnt use EQ alone. The suppression is still there, yet no test to bump up the alpha male in you.

fak that.

devil i did a blood test 7weeks ago and my test level on eq/tbol 2 weeks in the cycle was 1010..200 points over the max range and free test was 105..75 points over max range which is huge...now i did a test, 8 weeks into eq with tbol finished on 6th week and my test is 912 and free test 103..

my lh and fsh are mildly lowered .50 and .22 respectively..

i think about suppression its many folds better than test..as i have results of my blood work and how test reduced my hpta..

with an only eq cycle and free test staying at the same level in 6 weeks, am pretty surprised and happy..

**matt77** · 06-18-2010, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by bowly

i liked ur first response better...

for pct..clomid 100/50/50/25
nolva 40/40/20/20

stats..age 37,height-5.11,wt-76kgs,bf-14percent..

Bro, I dont think anyone else caught this but with stats like that and your on your 3rd cycle

What are you doing wrong? I suggest you figure out why your 5'11" 76kg (167 lbs) at 14% BF that leaves you with only 143lbs of lbm. Im not trying to be dick but you need to figure out whats going on. Your diet training or both are way off for those stats.

**Devil's_Advocate** · 06-18-2010, 09:15 PM

Damn, Matt77 hit this one on the head.
76kg? 3rd cycle? bloody hell.

Are you eating?

**bowly** · 06-18-2010, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by matt77

Bro, I dont think anyone else caught this but with stats like that and your on your 3rd cycle

What are you doing wrong? I suggest you figure out why your 5'11" 76kg (167 lbs) at 14% BF that leaves you with only 143lbs of lbm. Im not trying to be dick but you need to figure out whats going on. Your diet training or both are way off for those stats.

you are right..but i am a performer and have to be light on my feet..once i reached 82 and damn my feet could not move as fast..

with 8hrs of non stop moving its serious cardio going on..plus i cant look beefy and gracefull at the sametime..

yes i would like it to be 76 with 10 percent bf but i am 37 yrs old and once am off the cycle ,due to the fast metabolism and average testo,i lose muscles rapidly when i have to eat light during routines..