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for a first cycle i am keeping it simple
test-e @500 week 1-10
anavar @ 50mg.e,d
would you say its best to run the anavar from week 1-6 or week 4-10 ?
also would it not be recommended for a first cycle to do
week 1-10 test-e @500 week
week 1-4 d-bol @30 mg e.d
week 6 -10 anavar @50 mg e.d
PCT: nolva and clomid
also i will run armidex with the cycle what dose is sufficiant enought to prevent gyno etc ?
age?
height?
weight?
body fat?
years training?
Keeping it "simple" would be test only.Quote:
Originally Posted by benbean77
I advise you to drop it for the first run; however, IF you do end up running it, I would use it at the end to help harden up and cut any unwanted fat you might have picked up.Quote:
Originally Posted by benbean77
Don't run two orals on one cycle. Your liver is begging you not to. Pick one or the other. If you want to end on anavar and still need a kickstarter, use prop. Hell, I actually like to kickstart and end with prop.Quote:
Originally Posted by benbean77
As far as arimidex. It won't PREVENT gyno, but it should keep estrogen in check.
I am prone to estrogen related sides so I dose it at 0.5mg EOD. First off you could try it at 0.25mg EOD, or even E3D. Up the dosage/frequency if needed.
As far as your PCT. Nolva and clmoid sounds good, but how much of each and how long do you plan on running it for?
Agreed X 100000000....Give some stats bro...Quote:
Originally Posted by D7M
Dont be so stupid, do not use steroids at 18yrs old, do you want to have low testosterone for life?Quote:
Originally Posted by benbean77
jeeeeeez sort your diet out and start training hard.
AGE
In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.
Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.
Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.
TRAINING
You need a few years of hard training under your belt before even considering taking any kind of anabolic support, people who jump on a cycle to soon without having some quality years under their belt usually results in injuries, it takes time to develop your connective tissue, tendons and nervous system to heavy overload training. Slowly getting your own system use to these kinds of extreme's will only help in muscle growth later on when you do decide to start taking AAS.
Build a solid foundation for muscle tissue to grow and maintaining and development will be far greater than without it. Many younger guys will start cycling before they have reached their genetic potential which is crazy when a good solid diet and training program will be far beneficial and productive to muscle building.
Workouts should be mainly focused on basic movements with a priority of over loading the muscle each and ever time you train, increasing your strength and ability to lift in proper form will help with building the foundation for future development
DIET
A lot of younger bodybuilders don't know how to eat. Researching and understanding how your own body responds will help you get to your natural limit, the right food at the right time and a full understanding of proteins,carbs, and fats will only help you succeed in achieving your natural goals. Keeping a diet diary will also help you understand the importance of macro, nutrients, calories and should help you see in which areas you could be going wrong in adding lean muscle tissue.
No matter how much anabolic support you have it will be worthless without proper nutrition, food will help build and maintain your valued muscle weather its natural, cycling or in PCT. Adjusting your food intake and consuming muscle building foods coupled with a solid training program will help you achieve your natural limit and foundation before you start AAS use.
This area is a huge problem with the younger guys and I can't express enough how important diet/food is when first starting out, post and pre training nutrition are very important and understanding how to load and feed the body will help push growth and create a very natural anabolic environment.
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ha marcus i have those in a personal sticky oh la la
x2, my .02Quote:
Originally Posted by marcus300
age 19
height 6'
weight 12.1/2 stone
low b.f
3 years training
eat like hell increased meals etc
dont have best genetics every male member of my family are all v.very natually thin on both sides of the family
so trying to put on size almost come to a hault first year put about 1 stone on but since then about 6kg a year and now not increasing for about 8 months
Dude, when you have lost interest in sex and your pecker hardly works anyway you will be wishing you listened to marcus(see above posts)
Dont do it! It will not matter if the bitches think youre hot when your pecker dont work