Considering First Cycle - Opinions?

[WizKhalifa]

Hi - I've been considering a cycle for the last few months while lifting and working out regularly. I've been cycling Creatine and taking whey protein and have seen considerable gains so far. I'm wanting to take the next step up and I've considered an AS cycle.

Some info about me:
Age: 20
Height: 5' 11"
Weight: 176.8 lbs
BF %: 19.8%
BW %: 55.2%

One of my main goals has been lowering my BF% though I don't know if it should be lower before I begin an AS cycle... any thoughts on that? Will AS help lower my BF%?

As far as diet goes: I do my best to keep it healthy and balanced. I currently run a business and go to college at the same time so life is very "on-the-go". I wish I could fit in time to plan out every meal and count calories, protein, etc; but my lifestyle just hasn't allowed it.

I've looked into both Oral Supplements (oralsteroids.com) and the regular Needle... The consensus that this board seems to have given me is:
-The Oral Supps are less effective and can damage your liver, so the needle is a better option. I was wondering if anyone has actual hands on experience with both and could comment on that.

Also - any overall opinions of my situation are welcome

[Knockout_Power]

Hi - I've been considering a cycle for the last few months while lifting and working out regularly. I've been cycling Creatine and taking whey protein and have seen considerable gains so far. I'm wanting to take the next step up and I've considered an AS cycle.

Some info about me:
Age: 20
way too young to cycle
Height: 5' 11"
Weight: 176.8 lbs
definately nowhere near your natural potential
BF %: 19.8%
at least 7% (13lbs) away from adequate BF for cycling
BW %: 55.2%

One of my main goals has been lowering my BF% though I don't know if it should be lower before I begin an AS cycle... any thoughts on that? Will AS help lower my BF%?
cycling at a higher bodyfat increases the chances for nasty sides

As far as diet goes: I do my best to keep it healthy and balanced. I currently run a business and go to college at the same time so life is very "on-the-go". I wish I could fit in time to plan out every meal and count calories, protein, etc; but my lifestyle just hasn't allowed it.
if you havent been eating well enough to put on more natural weight, you wont be able to sustain the weight you gain cycling

I've looked into both Oral Supplements (oralsteroids.com) and the regular Needle... The consensus that this board seems to have given me is:
-The Oral Supps are less effective and can damage your liver, so the needle is a better option. I was wondering if anyone has actual hands on experience with both and could comment on that.
eveyone on here has experience with them. dont mention website names for suppliers. Dont do oral only cycles, and when you do incorporate them, make sure to run liver support. Many oral suppliers are fakes with anabolic like names

Also - any overall opinions of my situation are welcome

Answers in bold
Concensus, best not to be cycling right now

[marcus300]

Please read this article I wrote:

AGE
In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.



TRAINING
You need a few years of hard training under your belt before even considering taking any kind of anabolic support, people who jump on a cycle to soon without having some quality years under their belt usually results in injuries, it takes time to develop your connective tissue, tendons and nervous system to heavy overload training. Slowly getting your own system use to these kinds of extreme's will only help in muscle growth later on when you do decide to start taking AAS.

Build a solid foundation for muscle tissue to grow and maintaining and development will be far greater than without it. Many younger guys will start cycling before they have reached their genetic potential which is crazy when a good solid diet and training program will be far beneficial and productive to muscle building.

Workouts should be mainly focused on basic movements with a priority of over loading the muscle each and ever time you train, increasing your strength and ability to lift in proper form will help with building the foundation for future development


DIET
A lot of younger bodybuilders don't know how to eat. Researching and understanding how your own body responds will help you get to your natural limit, the right food at the right time and a full understanding of proteins,carbs, and fats will only help you succeed in achieving your natural goals. Keeping a diet diary will also help you understand the importance of macro, nutrients, calories and should help you see in which areas you could be going wrong in adding lean muscle tissue.

No matter how much anabolic support you have it will be worthless without proper nutrition, food will help build and maintain your valued muscle weather its natural, cycling or in PCT. Adjusting your food intake and consuming muscle building foods coupled with a solid training program will help you achieve your natural limit and foundation before you start AAS use.

This area is a huge problem with the younger guys and I can't express enough how important diet/food is when first starting out, post and pre training nutrition are very important and understanding how to load and feed the body will help push growth and create a very natural anabolic environment.

[WizKhalifa]

OK Thanks for the information guys. So the main points I have received are:
-I should wait at least a few more years.
-I should cut my BF % at least down to 13.
-I should work on a good diet to put on more natural weight.
-Keep training and then consider AS down the road.

Marcus300: I read your article I liked it a lot thanks. In your opinion what is the lowest age that one could start with AS assuming his diet/training/BF is in the right conditions?

[Matt]

OK Thanks for the information guys. So the main points I have received are:
-I should wait at least a few more years.
-I should cut my BF % at least down to 13.
-I should work on a good diet to put on more natural weight.
-Keep training and then consider AS down the road.

Marcus300: I read your article I liked it a lot thanks. In your opinion what is the lowest age that one could start with AS assuming his diet/training/BF is in the right conditions?

Thats the thing, your currently at your prime and its at this time that you really need to make the most of what you have...

What you gain now naturally will be amplified many times over the longer you leave using aas....

Imo id wait until your 25..

[marcus300]

OK Thanks for the information guys. So the main points I have received are:
-I should wait at least a few more years.
-I should cut my BF % at least down to 13.
-I should work on a good diet to put on more natural weight.
-Keep training and then consider AS down the road.

Marcus300: I read your article I liked it a lot thanks. In your opinion what is the lowest age that one could start with AS assuming his diet/training/BF is in the right conditions?

Your better of waiting till your around 24yrs old and your body as stopped growing, at your age its still growing and its in his prime for hormones so by shutting them down you could cause yourself a huge amount of problems what could be with you for the rest of your life, it isnt worth it IMHO and with the nataural high you have at your age you can build alot more with a solid diet, food is the key here...