6 week cycle of Test 400

[sr20s13]

ok so, heres the deal. I started 6/18/10 on my first cycle ever. Im using test 400 2cc's a week for 6 weeks. ive been reading around and found that the best thing to use is nolva for the pct. I also came across some other things like clomid. is it necessary for me to use clomid in my pct stage or is nolva enough when just cycling test 400?

preciate it fellas.

[Big]

I don't like that cycle at all, especially for a first cycle.
yes, you need nolva and clomid for pct
age?
height?
weight?
body fat%?
years training?

[sr20s13]

22
6'0
210
20%ish maybe less, maybe more
ive been working out for a while i started hitting the gym hard at 18, slacked off, got back in the gym hard after a couple of months, slakced off, met some trainer who really taught me alot about weight training and now im back hittin it hard again.

why dont you like my cycle? just wondering.

I forgot to mention that i take 1cc on fridays and 1cc on mondays

[Big]

22 is too young to cycle safely
20% is WAY to high to cycle, you're opening yourself up for estrogen related sides
800mg/week is way too high for a first cycle
considering the long esters in the test 400, 6 weeks is way too short for a proper cycle
you need at least 1 year of solid dedicated training to be ready for a cycle
could you post a pic and show us what base you are building off of?

[sr20s13]

maybe when i get to the house ill see if i cant upload a pic. so being that im 20%.. taking the nolva and clomid wont be enough to counteract the aromatization?

how many cc's should i take in a week? and how many weeks would you say is long enough? 12 weeks?

[Big]

I would recommend stopping now and running a full pct, diet and train properly until you are ready for a cycle, which will give you time to plan the proper cycle.

[Igifuno]

The higher your bf%, the likelier you are to encounter negative side effects such as gyno. You should build a better foundation, educate yourself to the benefits as well as risks associated with aas before considering using. The fact that you didn't know if clomid was a necessary element of pct tells me that you're too young and uneducated in the world of steroids to have started using at your age. I'd advise you to stop, run proper pct and train naturally for a few years. Whether or not you'll take that advice, well - that's your call bro.

Good luck,

IG

[sr20s13]

ok well say i continue this cycle. how would you correct my cycle. forgetting the BF% AGE and at what point with you start using the nolva and clomid. at the end of the cycle or mid way?

[Big]

I'm not very good at advising the right way to do the wrong thing, but I'll give it a shot. to determine pct start time we need to know the esters of the test you're using. what exactly does the label say? don't list the brand or lab name, but list everything else it says.

[sr20s13]

its all in spanish. here is a picture of it i got off google.

http://www.roidreport.com/steroids/w....thumbnail.jpg

maybe that will help you. have you used this before?

[nwjt]

From my understanding he is using 400 mg per week, not 800.

"Im using test 400 2cc's a week for 6 weeks"

[Big]

From my understanding he is using 400 mg per week, not 800.

"Im using test 400 2cc's a week for 6 weeks"

2cc's of test 400 is 800mg, the math is quite basic...

[Big]

its all in spanish. here is a picture of it i got off google.

http://www.roidreport.com/steroids/w....thumbnail.jpg

maybe that will help you. have you used this before?

that picture is too small to see. take a pic of the label with the lab name blocked out and post, specifically anything that looks like dosages, etc

[sr20s13]

ok im not at home right now. ill be sure to let you know when i get to the house.

[Big]

good deal, get us some pics that will let me make out the ester(s) and we'll guide you in from there

[sr20s13]

damn i appreciate it bro.

[sr20s13]

so what are the esters? i think this is what your looking for but im not 100% sure

50mg Propionate
175mg enanthate
175mg cypionate

and something else called vehicle cbp 1ml

[VWbug66]

big,
It's Denkall T400, the black and yellow bottle from mexico

[sr20s13]

correct, ok so from reading up on the esters ive decided to change the cycle. 1cc of t400 per week for 8 weeks. apparently if i keep the dose under 500mgs ill be ok as far as aromatization. but im still want to start the pct during my cycle. when is the best time to start bro?

[VWbug66]

maybe he ought to inject mon, wed, and fri? What you think is best big?

[sr20s13]

what dosages do u recommend?

[VWbug66]

well i ran that same t400 a few years ago, so idk if your's if even real? could be faked, but it's possible it is real.

I injected half a cc mon-wed-fri and stacked deca with it too, that was by far my best cycle ever! i think i went up about 22-24 pounds!

But I'd like to wait to see what big suggests

[tomt45]

If I were you I would inject every other day, just because of the prop. My first cycle I ran just Test cyp at 500 mg a week. I would say 500 mg a week would be good for you. Run it for 12 weeks. These guys may have some better advice though so listen to them.

[VWbug66]

correct, ok so from reading up on the esters ive decided to change the cycle. 1cc of t400 per week for 8 weeks. apparently if i keep the dose under 500mgs ill be ok as far as aromatization. but im still want to start the pct during my cycle. when is the best time to start bro?

at 8 weeks the enanthate and cypionate will just be kicking in its prime..you need 10-12 weeks, you would be fine at 400 mg/wk

What pct do you have planned?

[Big]

you could .5cc twice a week, or .25cc eod.
pct never starts while you on cycle. some guys choose to use a serm or an ai on cycle if they have a reason too, but that is separate from pct. for the esters you have, I would start pct 16 days after the last test injection.

[sr20s13]

well as far as the pct.. I think i saw in a recent post where big or someone with knowledge of aas use stated nolva 40/20/20/20 and clomid 50/30/30/30 i believe. lol, so you say i dont need a serm or an ai unless i have a reason to? hmm.. so if i start growin tits i need to consider using a serm or what haha.. i figure if i just keep the dosage low ill be alright.

[VWbug66]

yeah have it on hand if you start to see ur tits puff up a little or start to itch.
Yes nolva and clomid is good too..but swifto-respectable on here, likes nolva and tore

search for tore and nolva read up on that.

how long are you going to run the cycle? 8 weeks is to short with the cyp and enan being the main esters in this test. you need 12 weeks. I like to go 15 weeks with those esters

[sr20s13]

well i guess i can extend it to 12 weeks. this is my first cycle. i started it on the 18th which was friday.

what is the full name for tore? and when it comes to a serm or ai .. is letro the best go with?

[VWbug66]

look up tore you'll see it.. i'm not sure how to spell it