test/tren cycle

[maximus05]

What up fellas...what would you all perfer to stack onto a test/trenbolone cycle? dbol , anadrol , masteron , or just test and tren alone? or something else and why...

[marcus300]

What are your stats?
How long have you been training?
Previous cycles?

[maximus05]

height 6ft weight 225
bench 350
squat 550
deadlift 600
powerclean 345
40 yard dash 4.5
Ive trained for 15 years
Im 24 years old
previous cycles test/dbol

[HawaiianPride.]

Did your previous cycle only consist of test and a kicker? If so, you aren't ready for Tren especially stacked with numerous compounds.

[maximus05]

I done oral tren before and fkn loved it stacked with dbol ...the way I see it, is a stacked cycle should consist of an estrogenic compound like test, dbol, anadrol , or boldenone that should be used as the base steroid , test being the most common due to its effectiveness, and minimal toxicity... and the secondary steroid being a strong androgen and low estrogenic steroid to increase anabolic activity and keep estrogenic side effects to a minimum...
So back to my question of what you guys would perfer on top of a test/tren stack, test being the estrogenic base, tren being the androgen secondary... would you perfer to add another estrogenic like dbol, or anadrol? or another androgenic ? I know there are a lot of different approaches to stacking but just wanted to see everybodies preferense based off of test, and tren...

[G4R]

BF% ?

My stacks are based on my goals. What are your goals?

[maximus05]

my goals are to be big, strong as fk, and fast on the football field... my body fat % right now is roughly 11.5%... I already have a good weight to strenght ratio at 225lbs but I want to get up to about 245 to 250lbs keeping the same strenght ratio, know what I mean...

[Matt]

height 6ft weight 225
bench 350
squat 550
deadlift 600
powerclean 345
40 yard dash 4.5
Ive trained for 15 years
Im 24 years old
previous cycles test/dbol

Happy birthday, you kept that quiet, i see your still growing too, maybe leave the aas until you've finished growing...

Just wanted to introduce myself... I am Maximus... I love lifting, I love sports, surfing, playing guitar, etc....

I actually am the running back for a football team...
Im 5'11", about 228 lbs, and run a 4.5 40 yard dash...
my upper body aint that big, but my lower body is my strong side since that is what I train most the time for football...
on the bench I can put 315 up for maybe 4 or 5 times all the way down...
squat is a bit better at around 550 once or twice all the way down
and deadlift is decent too at over 600 lbs
and power clean is 345lbs for one

Im in the middle of the season right now so I just try and maintain my strength, but my goal in the off season is to get my bench up over 350,
my squat up over 600, my dead lift up over 650, and my power clean up over 365 and my body weight over 250 lbs...

Im 23 years old, I have lifted and played ball my whole life, I have done all the pro hormones like superdrol, halodrol, etc. and would like to take it up a step during the offseason to help meat my goals...

anyways glad to be a member and look foward to meeting and talking with everyone...

[dec11]

height 6ft weight 225
bench 350
squat 550
deadlift 600
powerclean 345
40 yard dash 4.5
Ive trained for 15 years
Im 24 years old
previous cycles test/dbol

what? you started training at age 9?! i smell the bullshit already

[maximus05]

damn, I been playin ball since I was 7 so yeah I been training for about 15 years and yeah Ill be 24 in oct. so fckn A if you dont want to have a good conversation then dont bother posting usless bull shit...

[Mr Busta sweat]

Good Luck to you MAXimus, you should not mess with Tren . After such a short period of aas use and consider stacking it with more compounds is nuts brother. Tren is not a mild steroid I would say it more a less a Drug. Iam on week two of my first tren cycle and to hear you talk of staking more compounds is crazy shit!!

[Matt]

damn, I been playin ball since I was 7 so yeah I been training for about 15 years and yeah Ill be 24 in oct. so fckn A if you dont want to have a good conversation then dont bother posting usless bull shit...

No need for that, you may want to read the rules before posting again...

The fact that theres a difference in height shows that at this time your still growing, imo this shows that your body hasnt fully developed yet. You could therefore be causing yourself lasting damage by using aas at this time....

[Msus504]

imo if u run the tren i would just stick with the test/tren for now to see how u react....

[dec11]

damn, I been playin ball since I was 7 so yeah I been training for about 15 years and yeah Ill be 24 in oct. so fckn A if you dont want to have a good conversation then dont bother posting usless bull shit...

yeah playing being the operative. with tht attitude you can truck yourself mate

[Black R/T]

why on so many occasions do i see people getting flammed on this site??? i thought we were here to help each other and learn....

5'11 and 6 ft are not much different. im 5'6 3/4 but i call myself 5'7.... he's 24, most likely done growing UP, but im sure he could naturally fill out more, given.

BUT, he's going to do the cyle anyway.... lets just HELP him do it the right way instead of criticizing over and over.

good luck with your cycle btw Max

and im speaking to the people with nothing good to say, who post anyway.

[marcus300]

why on so many occasions do i see people getting flammed on this site??? i thought we were here to help each other and learn....

5'11 and 6 ft are not much different. im 5'6 3/4 but i call myself 5'7.... he's 24, most likely done growing UP, but im sure he could naturally fill out more, given.

BUT, he's going to do the cyle anyway.... lets just HELP him do it the right way instead of criticizing over and over.

good luck with your cycle btw Max

How can you help anyone when you dont know the truth about his stats?

You cant just help anyone use steroids , thats reckless advice, it doesnt matter if he was going to use them anyway, if the safest and correct way forward for that person is not to run steroids how on earth can you just swallow your views and opinions and give advice all because he is going to do it anyway!

[HawaiianPride.]

^Thank you.

Sick and tired of hearing people say "he's going to do it anyways, so why not give him the advice he wants to hear!"

Ridiculous.

[Black R/T]

Marcus, that was in NO way directed at you or most people that posted. you have always been a huge help on this site and others (thanks by the way), and your knowlege on AAS is as immense as your physique.
im not saying that people should not know his stats or history before giving advice or that people shouldnt try and talk the guy down because of various reasons, THEY SHOULD. yes, he is young. yes, his cycle history is short. but, he IS going to do the cycle and no man can change that.

ALL im saying is: lets inform him, he asked a question and was looking for an answer.

[Black R/T]

^Thank you.

Sick and tired of hearing people say "he's going to do it anyways, so why not give him the advice he wants to hear!"

Ridiculous.

i didnt say give him the advice he wants to hear. i said help him do it the correct way. pay attention

[marcus300]

Marcus, that was in NO way directed at you or most people that posted. you have always been a huge help on this site and others (thanks by the way), and your knowlege on AAS is as immense as your physique.
im not saying that people should not know his stats or history before giving advice or that people shouldnt try and talk the guy down because of various reasons, THEY SHOULD. yes, he is young. yes, his cycle history is short. but, he IS going to do the cycle and no man can change that.

ALL im saying is: lets inform him, he asked a question and was looking for an answer.

But if his stats/diet/training experience says he shouldnt cycle why should people advice him on how to cycle only because he is going to do it anyway!
Your correct he asked a question and the answer is he shouldnt cycle and if we are dealing with someone who lies about his height and age, how on earth do we know that he isnt really 17yrs old 135lbs?

sorry but I dont agree on this one,

[marcus300]

i didnt say give him the advice he wants to hear. i said help him do it the correct way. pay attention

The correct way for him is not to cycle.

[Black R/T]

The correct way for him is not to cycle.

Agreed Marcus, he is too young and could reap a better over-all result by waiting for his body to mature before taking AS.

i dont believe he lied about his stats though. i read alot of these posts and its usually easy to tell when someone isnt being straight about their story.

The guy is 5'11 in one post and 6ft in another. isnt that only a minor difference and couldnt you say that its easier to just post 6ft? Also, in an older post it says he is 23 but now he says 24. im not being sarcastic, but birthdays happen.

Maybe i dont see it the same as most people and i could be 100% wrong. This is my perspective on it, explained in a way that i can relate.
On an ATV (4-wheeler, quad)... there is a sign on the fender that says nobody under the age of 16 should ride the machine. Now, parents are going to buy their kids these ATVs even if they are not yet old enough to ride it. (I race Motocross and see this on a regular basis.)
Say for instance; this young kid approaches you at the track and has questions. Would you use this time to answer his questions, maybe give him pointers on how to be a safer and better rider? or would you waste your chance to help, only to tell him he shouldnt ride the ATV until he is 16 or older because he could hurt himself?

[dec11]

Agreed Marcus, he is too young and could reap a better over-all result by waiting for his body to mature before taking AS.

i dont believe he lied about his stats though. i read alot of these posts and its usually easy to tell when someone isnt being straight about their story.

The guy is 5'11 in one post and 6ft in another. isnt that only a minor difference and couldnt you say that its easier to just post 6ft? Also, in an older post it says he is 23 but now he says 24. im not being sarcastic, but birthdays happen.

Maybe i dont see it the same as most people and i could be 100% wrong. This is my perspective on it, explained in a way that i can relate.
On an ATV (4-wheeler, quad)... there is a sign on the fender that says nobody under the age of 16 should ride the machine. Now, parents are going to buy their kids these ATVs even if they are not yet old enough to ride it. (I race Motocross and see this on a regular basis.)
Say for instance; this young kid approaches you at the track and has questions. Would you use this time to answer his questions, maybe give him pointers on how to be a safer and better rider? or would you waste your chance to help, only to tell him he shouldnt ride the ATV until he is 16 or older because he could hurt himself?

oh jesus, wat are you on about? theres a bit of difference. you sound like a kid also

[maximus05]

Yo what up fellas I been out for the last couple days just wanted to clear some things up...First of all my stats are true, Im still 23 will be 24 in 4 months (oct). I have been measured at 5'11" and also 6' so I just say 6'. I understand people advising not to use tren with little AAS history...I get it, dont do it... but if you look at what I have posted on this thread, I never said I was thinking about doing the cycle, even though I have, I just wanted to here different fews, not whether I should do it or not...go back and read my third post on this thread... I merely was trying to start up a conversation about peoples approaches to stacking...

[Black R/T]

oh jesus, wat are you on about? theres a bit of difference. you sound like a kid also

you sound insecure. 3 posts in this thread and you have NOTHING positive or constructive to talk about. you're just flamming, like a kid...

[silverback11]

if your stats are true and you're that strong already and all you want to do is gain some quality weight just eat dude, keep training like you do and eat.

[dec11]

you sound insecure. 3 posts in this thread and you have NOTHING positive or constructive to talk about. you're just flamming, like a kid...

how do you derive that you moron? the idea is to persuade youngsters not to use and whjen they are caught lying they arent goin to get a positive response, then other kids like you come along and reckon we should just advise them anyway. now back to your toys