2nd cycle option fellas

[ty357]

Whats up fellas. I decided not to compete this october. I will like to put on some more mass and probally compete in april. So fellas here is the proposed cycle. 1-12 test e 750mgs a week and tren e 1-10 400mgs a week and winnie or var 8-12. I will also have some caber or ai on hand or anything else you guys think i should have. Pct hcg through out cycle, nolva and clomid. Also should a oral kick start be needed? any other advice fellas i trully apriciate it. Thanks

[cobra305]

Test prop/tren a is what I am running as my second cycle and results are great. I also run a test e 500mg week cycle for my first one. Thus far I have not found the sides to be over bearing. Current doses are 700mg test a week and just under 500mg's tren a per week. You should look into this since tren a if sides are overwhelming gets out of your system faster and the test p yields little bloat

[HawaiianPride.]

With long esters yeah, Var would be my choice of kickstart. Winstrol < Var IMO. Caber on hand. Personally, I'd do Primo aswell throughout cycle to enhance each compound and make it more anabolic .

If that's you in your Av, won't bother for stats. Good luck on your cycle bro.

[ghettoboyd]

Whats up fellas. I decided not to compete this october. I will like to put on some more mass and probally compete in april. So fellas here is the proposed cycle. 1-12 test e 750mgs a week and tren e 1-10 400mgs a week and winnie or var 8-12. I will also have some caber or ai on hand or anything else you guys think i should have. Pct hcg through out cycle, nolva and clomid. Also should a oral kick start be needed? any other advice fellas i trully apriciate it. Thanks

i wouldent but you can use a kickstart....i myself would want to maybe go with test tren at first to see how it all effects me when it kicks in then if all is going well then maybee add winny or var...otherwise i feel its a solid plan as long as the tren agrees with you and you will know before its time to add a 3rd compound i would think but with all that being said ive never run tren so this is all hypothetical....

[ty357]

Test prop/tren a is what I am running as my second cycle and results are great. I also run a test e 500mg week cycle for my first one. Thus far I have not found the sides to be over bearing. Current doses are 700mg test a week and just under 500mg's tren a per week. You should look into this since tren a if sides are overwhelming gets out of your system faster and the test p yields little bloat

Ok bro. How long are you running your current cycle and i will def look in to that cycle

With long esters yeah, Var would be my choice of kickstart. Winstrol < Var IMO. Caber on hand. Personally, I'd do Primo aswell throughout cycle to enhance each compound and make it more anabolic .

If that's you in your Av, won't bother for stats. Good luck on your cycle bro.

yea thats me in the avy and believe it or not its a natural pic. Thanks bro and i will take that advice in to consideration. i like the primo idea as well

[G4R]

I may have missed it, but what did your first cycle consist of? I just wouldn't recommend tren on only your 2nd cycle. I would rather recommend something like deca (or npp if doing the kickstart) for only your 2nd cycle.

[cobra305]

8-10 weeks depending on how I tolerate sides. i know many people say tren is a no go for your 2nd cycle and to try deca but from my understanding deca bloats you like crazy. With tren a if it becomes to overwhelmig you can discontinue and sides would dissipate shortly there after since it is a short ester.

[HawaiianPride.]

Correction: didn't notice this was his second cycle in his thread subject title.

Stick with two compounds.

1-14 Test E 600-750mg PW
1-6 Var 80mg+ kickstart
NAC 600mg PD or Liv52 2 caps PD
Dex or Exe on hand
PCT 16+

[G4R]

If you are worried about bloat, look into adex, letro or proviron .

[ty357]

i wouldent but you can use a kickstart....i myself would want to maybe go with test tren at first to see how it all effects me when it kicks in then if all is going well then maybee add winny or var...otherwise i feel its a solid plan as long as the tren agrees with you and you will know before its time to add a 3rd compound i would think but with all that being said ive never run tren so this is all hypothetical....

Ok ghettoboyd thanks

I may have missed it, but what did your first cycle consist of? I just wouldn't recommend tren on only your 2nd cycle. I would rather recommend something like deca (or npp if doing the kickstart) for only your 2nd cycle.

1st cycle test e 1-12 500mgs ew 1-4dbol 30mgs ed. got excellent gaines and kept most. also got next t no sides with that cycle

8-10 weeks depending on how I tolerate sides. i know many people say tren is a no go for your 2nd cycle and to try deca but from my understanding deca bloats you like crazy. With tren a if it becomes to overwhelmig you can discontinue and sides would dissipate shortly there after since it is a short ester.

yea i here alot of ppl saying tren is a no go for 2nd cycle. but why

Correction: didn't notice this was his second cycle in his thread subject title.

Stick with two compounds.

1-14 Test E 600-750mg PW
1-6 Var 80mg+ kickstart
NAC 600mg PD or Liv52 2 caps PD
Dex or Exe on hand
PCT 16+

thanks bro. but why wouldnt you reccomend the tren

If you are worried about bloat, look into adex, letro or proviron.

Thanks bro mostlikely the adex and proviron .

[HawaiianPride.]

It's the harshest anabolic compound out there. Not recommended until you get familiar with more compounds. I'd say 4-5+ cycles under you belt. Other 19nors you can run though, as long as you've gotten familiar with test first. Just trying to get you to reach your goals without running very harsh compounds.

[ty357]

It's the harshest anabolic compound out there. Not recommended until you get familiar with more compounds. I'd say 4-5+ cycles under you belt. Other 19nors you can run though, as long as you've gotten familiar with test first. Just trying to get you to reach your goals without running very harsh compounds.

respect thanks bro

[Knockout_Power]

Tren is awesome, but like Hawaiian stated, so until you've experienced a couple different anabolics and understand how your body reacts, you should jump onto the tren wagon. I made it my 3rd cycle but really low, test @ 250. tren A @ 350/wk and it worked wonders. I dont know how some of these first timers can deal with pounding down numbers like 600/wk test and tren on their buddies advise

[G4R]

If you are looking for more size, var prob isn't what you want. If I am running a bulking cycle, and want a kickstart, I use prop or npp (or both), and sometimes dbol . Anavar isn't really a mass builder in the sense that it seems you are wanting.

I still think deca is going to be your best bet right now, but def stay away from tren for the time being.

[ty357]

If you are looking for more size, var prob isn't what you want. If I am running a bulking cycle, and want a kickstart, I use prop or npp (or both), and sometimes dbol . Anavar isn't really a mass builder in the sense that it seems you are wanting.

I still think deca is going to be your best bet right now, but def stay away from tren for the time being.

Thanks for the input bro

[Big]

I've been around a long, long time and have followed every one of your posts, and you seem to have some of the best genetics I've seen. I'd recommend running the test and tren as you have listed in post 1, and skipping the var, winny, and the oral kickstart. you won't need them. you will go far in this sport, keep us posted and don't forget us when you're famous. this is not advice I would give the average user on his second cycle, but you are by no means the average user.

[G4R]

If Big feels you are ready for tren , then by all means, go for it. He has been around all this a lot longer than probably 99% of the members here.

[Big]

If Big feels you are ready for tren, then by all means, go for it. He has been around all this a lot longer than probably 99% of the members here.

thanks for the kind words J. I'm checking on what we talked about earlier, I'll give you a call tomorrow.
sorry for the hijack.