hypothetical question

**smalltime7** · 07-02-2010, 05:45 PM

lets say your on 100 mg test a week for TRT what could you run with it for some reasonable gains and how would your PCT go? ST

**j4ever41** · 07-02-2010, 05:48 PM

trt = no pct

**smalltime7** · 07-02-2010, 05:49 PM

but what if you ran something WITH it? like 30 mg dbol for six weeks or something of that nature?

**Cthulhu** · 07-02-2010, 05:53 PM

If you added dbol I'd say you need a PCT. All though I'm not a grand master of knowledge or anything. Seems logical though

**smalltime7** · 07-02-2010, 05:54 PM

and thats my question because technically it would be a dbol only cycle since your on a TRT but is it?

**j4ever41** · 07-02-2010, 05:56 PM

no pct you are on trt ( you are replacing your test )

**smalltime7** · 07-02-2010, 06:01 PM

I understand that......but if you add another chemical to the mix then would you need PCT? or are you saying you only need PCT when cycling test?

**j4ever41** · 07-02-2010, 06:08 PM

No bro im saying you are not relying on your bodies ability to produce test,you are artifically keeping your test at a certain level,so you don not need a pct to kick start your hpta,does not matter if you add dbol or not,example you are on trt 100 so if you wanted to blast for a few weeks at a gram ( dont do that its arbitrary numbers ) after the blast just go back to trt dose,no pct required.

**smalltime7** · 07-02-2010, 06:15 PM

really? ahh makes sense thats good to know it appears that at 37 i may finally be a bit low so I may end up on some TRT and I was wondering how it would work with cycles I appreciate the info.......thank you

**Big** · 07-02-2010, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by Cthulhu;****250

If you added dbol I'd say you need a PCT. All though I'm not a grand master of knowledge or anything. Seems logical though

I'd say if you think people on trt need pct, perhaps you should research more before you attempt to advise. no offense, but there are enough of us here who know the answer to these questions that we don't need people posting guesses.

**Big** · 07-02-2010, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by smalltime7;****270

really? ahh makes sense thats good to know it appears that at 37 i may finally be a bit low so I may end up on some TRT and I was wondering how it would work with cycles I appreciate the info.......thank you

what you are considering is often referred to "cruise and blast". guys cruise on a trt dose of test year-round, and occasionally up the dose or add compounds for a small amount of time before returning to their trt dose. once someone is on trt, their natural test production is no more, so there is never a pct.

**smalltime7** · 07-02-2010, 06:46 PM

Thanks BIG I was on TRT once before and dont think i really needed it but now at 37 sex drive down energy down and belly fat on the rise so i had blood done a few days ago and we will see I just wanted to understand the process when "blasting" thanks again ST

**Pac Man** · 07-02-2010, 08:06 PM

Just need an ai on trt. Hypothetical answer? You could run an extra 400mg of test

**Big** · 07-02-2010, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by Benjamin258456;****401

That deceives the main purpose.

Ye but you don't estrogen ither.....or even bound testosterone. Big u got link on why u don't need PCT? just curious

no link needed, when you are on trt your natural testosterone production stays suppressed, pct is to restore your natural testosterone production. any time you are injecting test your body senses the levels being above normal, and therefore doesn't see a need to keep producing test.

**Pac Man** · 07-02-2010, 09:17 PM

I think he has pct and estrogen control confused.
Ai are used to keep your estrogen in balance while on cycle
pct is to restore natural test production and control estrogen rebound
on trt you use test for life so you never produce your own test therefore no pct

**gixxerboy1** · 07-03-2010, 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by Benjamin258456;****401

That deceives the main purpose.

Ye but you don't estrogen ither.....or even bound testosterone. Big u got link on why u don't need PCT? just curious

i dont understand your post

also you need estrogen to grow

**marcus300** · 07-03-2010, 01:53 AM

Originally Posted by Big;****277

what you are considering is often referred to "cruise and blast". guys cruise on a trt dose of test year-round, and occasionally up the dose or add compounds for a small amount of time before returning to their trt dose. once someone is on trt, their natural test production is no more, so there is never a pct.

Originally Posted by Big;****412

no link needed, when you are on trt your natural testosterone production stays suppressed, pct is to restore your natural testosterone production. any time you are injecting test your body senses the levels being above normal, and therefore doesn't see a need to keep producing test.

BIG has got this covered:

No need for pct no matter what compound you would add to your hrt/trt.