2nd cycle question+ reccomendations

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

I was told that time one a cycle=time off.. is this true? and I was trying to think of a second cycle, so i can get my gear ahead of time. now I am currently on my 7th week of a 10 week cycle of test e 500 mg a week. decent gains from 185 to 202 so far...any reccomends? i wanna bulk more but with minimum fat, please comment thanks

[big_ron]

time off = pct + time on, so after you finish your 10 week cycle, obviously start pct 18 days after last shot (im fair sure, double check) pct should take 4 weeks, then take 10 weeks off after pct and get blood work done if that comes back fine, then your good to go

[big_ron]

your full stats?

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

your full stats?

5'10
training for 6 years
202lbs
bf%13-14
24yrs
and what would be "good" levels.. and get my test levels and liver?,what about thyroid?

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

anadrol /test/tren


anadrol/test/deca

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

anadrol /test/tren


anadrol/test/deca

what dosages?

[P3rf3ctionist]

HPTA recovery depends on many factors one of them being the state of the HPTA before starting a cycle (like a previous cycle) it's noted that it could take up to 6-12 months for your HPTA recover and your endogenous test levels to normalize. So if you jump into a cycle before your HPTA has fully recovered it could further negatively impact it meaning recovery would be slightly more challenging so, I'd reckon giving 6-8 months after pct has been completed between cycles would be a good protocol to follow.

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

HPTA recovery depends on many factors one of them being the state of the HPTA before starting a cycle (like a previous cycle) it's noted that it could take up to 6-12 months for your HPTA recover and your endogenous test levels to normalize. So if you jump into a cycle before your HPTA has fully recovered it could further negatively impact it meaning recovery would be slightly more challenging so, I'd reckon giving 6-8 months after pct has been completed between cycles would be a good protocol to follow.

hmm.. ok. im not in a hurry to jump into another cycle. so if i have to thats cool. is that the same for phs too?

[jordann]

anadrol /test/tren


anadrol/test/deca

Tren second cycle? I wouldn't recommend it, since another compound hasn't been run before.

I'm basically the same stats as you, saw the same results on my first cycle, and am now on my second cycle.

I ran cyp @ 500mg week for 10 weeks. I have now switched to enanthate @ 750mg/week for 10 weeks, also with dbol to kickstart @ 40mg ED.

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

Tren second cycle? I wouldn't recommend it, since another compound hasn't been run before.

I'm basically the same stats as you, saw the same results on my first cycle, and am now on my second cycle.

I ran cyp @ 500mg week for 10 weeks. I have now switched to enanthate @ 750mg/week for 10 weeks, also with dbol to kickstart @ 40mg ED.

true that. But if he runs tren ace, and can't handle it, it will be out in a few days. Even drol can be harsh.

how bout dbol /test/deca ...solid bulker

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

true that. But if he runs tren ace, and can't handle it, it will be out in a few days. Even drol can be harsh.

how bout dbol/test/deca...solid bulker

i was thinking of test/deca /(somthing that wont cause too much bloat)

[P3rf3ctionist]

hmm.. ok. im not in a hurry to jump into another cycle. so if i have to thats cool. is that the same for phs too?

From the sounds of it you're making good gains, also your androgen receptors would be down-regulated so obviously you'd need time for hem to recover.

As for prohormones I'm not sure bro as I have little knowledge on them bit I'd assume it would be the same for them too. I reckon you could make satisfactory gains after your PCT naturally and it would give you an idea about how well your body can cope with the additional lean mass.

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

From the sounds of it you're making good gains, also your androgen receptors would be down-regulated so obviously you'd need time for hem to recover.

As for prohormones I'm not sure bro as I have little knowledge on them bit I'd assume it would be the same for them too. I reckon you could make satisfactory gains after your PCT naturally and it would give you an idea about how well your body can cope with the additional lean mass.

cool. thanks bro

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

what bout test deca and var or winny? or a cutter, id try tren but not sure if i should run somthing else

[P3rf3ctionist]

what bout test deca and var or winny? or a cutter, id try tren but not sure if i should run somthing else

test deca is a classical bulker for good reasons too, with a good diet you could put on some serious mass. normal dosage would be test e/c 500mg deca 400mg, with which you can pre-load so that would mean taking 1000mg of the test and 800 mg of the deca for two weeks and then coming down to 500mg of test and 400mg of deca, this is a protocol used to reach therapeutic levels of the compounds.

tren , is a great compound which i will personally be using for the first time in a clean bulker next month.

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

bump! looking for more suggestions or ideas,thx

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

what about test deca and dbol

[marcus300]

what about test deca and dbol

That would be fine for a 2nd cycle, what dosages are you going to run?

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

That would be fine for a 2nd cycle, what dosages are you going to run?

i dont know exactlynever ran any other compounds, what would you reccomend my friend?

what about 400-deca week1-8
500-700 test e weeks1-8
20-30 mg of dbol weeks 1-4??? what do you think?

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

any takers?

[TheRepartitioner]

what about test/deca /Tbol at 500 mg, 400 mg, and 60 mg respectively

test 1-12
deca 1-10
tbol 1-5

[TheRepartitioner]

Tbol has less bloat than dbol

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

Tbol has less bloat than dbol

hmm never gave it any thought.. ill look it up. thanks

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

yea tbol dosnt sound bad at all, the gains arnt as good as dbol , but no big bloat. i like i like thanks repartitioner

[big_ron]

Or even

test 1-14
deca 1-12
tbol 1-5

then pct
im thinking this is my next cycle, just dont wanna put on fat with the deca, even if my diet is clean.
dont know why deca makes you store more fat?

[TheRepartitioner]

Just finished running it myself, nice gains, amazing pumps in the gym too. And no bloat. I'm pretty sure you'll like it bro

[marcus300]

i dont know exactlynever ran any other compounds, what would you reccomend my friend?

what about 400-deca week1-8
500-700 test e weeks1-8
20-30 mg of dbol weeks 1-4??? what do you think?

1-12 Test E - 500mgs
1-10 Deca - 400mgs
1-4 Dbol - 30mgs ed

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

1-12 Test E - 500mgs
1-10 Deca - 400mgs
1-4 Dbol - 30mgs ed

nice ,thanks man. what about tbol? ou think its a better choice?

[sigman roid]

nice ,thanks man. what about tbol? ou think its a better choice?

Depends on your goals but if your bulking i'd go with the dbol