Planning a FIRST cycle - recommend what to use?

**bloynad** · 07-08-2010, 05:17 AM

Hey Guys,

Ill keep this short and sweet!
Been doing the gym on and off for around 3 years now..
Weight: 160lb
Height: 5“8
Aim: To bulk up and gain mass

I have been reading about gear for a while now, so I know it isn't a 'quick fix'
And you guys work your arses off with it. I think I'm ready to try a first cycle so..

What would you recommend for a first cycle, I have been offered andropen , but I
Believe there is better stuff to start on as opposed to the 5 ester blend? And frequent
Shots..? Basically I'm open for all advice of what to begin on and advantages, along with
Possible tips on stacking with anti's etc...

Thanks a lot, and apologies for the 'beginner' lack of knowledge lol.
Regards, bloynad..

**Matt** · 07-08-2010, 05:22 AM

Imo your still to young and have so much room for improvement naturally..

Start by posting your diet in the diet forum and lets take it from there..

**POPS** · 07-08-2010, 05:22 AM

Originally Posted by bloynad

Hey Guys,

Ill keep this short and sweet!
Been doing the gym on and off for around 3 years now.
Age: 20
Weight: 160lb
Height: 5“8
Aim: To bulk up and gain mass

I have been reading about gear for a while now, so I know it isn't a 'quick fix'
And you guys work your arses off with it. I think I'm ready to try a first cycle so..

What would you recommend for a first cycle, I have been offered andropen , but I
Believe there is better stuff to start on as opposed to the 5 ester blend? And frequent
Shots..? Basically I'm open for all advice of what to begin on and advantages, along with
Possible tips on stacking with anti's etc...

Thanks a lot, and apologies for the 'beginner' lack of knowledge lol.
Regards, bloynad..

I would wait another few years because your natural test levels are at their highest and I would not mess with that at the present time. Get yourself a good lean bulking diet, train hard, take proper supplements and go from there...

You do not want to be one of those guys that just say " screw it " then later in life regretting it....

jmo......

**bloynad** · 07-08-2010, 05:26 AM

Thanks for the quick reply.
I really respect the advice, but I really do wanna try gear

what's your advice on best place to start for me?
Sorry if I sound uneducated in the subject etc..

Would appreciate advice on first cycle
Cheers mate.

**POPS** · 07-08-2010, 05:31 AM

Originally Posted by bloynad

Thanks for the quick reply.
I really respect the advice, but I really do wanna try gear

what's your advice on best place to start for me?
Sorry if I sound uneducated in the subject etc..

Would appreciate advice on first cycle
Cheers mate.

youre basically asking me to go into a liquor store to buy beer for you....sorry bud, but I cannot give advice for gear who is not ready.

If you feel that you need to try something get yourself some good creatine and some No2 and go from there......

**G4R** · 07-08-2010, 05:34 AM

Whats the right age to take steroids (GOOD READ)
AAS: Things to consider before starting a first cycle (Great Read)

^^^ Need to read these

You do not need steroids right now. Your goals to bulk up and gain mass are completly obtainable through a proper bulking diet, and intense training. Add those two with the fact that your body is still producing mass amounts of natural testosterone right now.

You need to be smart about this. Just go natural for a while first.

**bloynad** · 07-08-2010, 05:37 AM

What is the age limit? We atried alcohol underage?
How old were you guys when you started taing juice?

And from your experience and opinion what is best for first cycle.
(That's got nothing to do with me, just curious about your experiences..)

**bloynad** · 07-08-2010, 05:51 AM

Thanks, I have already read that and currently the exact same build as my dad, height and weight so I'm more than less certain I have reached my final figure. If you can't recommend me a starting cycle then what is the best creatine to use, I tried all of the no-xplode, super pump etc..

**POPS** · 07-08-2010, 06:02 AM

Originally Posted by bloynad

Thanks, I have already read that and currently the exact same build as my dad, height and weight so I'm more than less certain I have reached my final figure. If you can't recommend me a starting cycle then what is the best creatine to use, I tried all of the no-xplode, super pump etc..

try creatine mono, no2 and a GOOD LEAN BULKING diet and you will be amazed on the results....

**bloynad** · 07-08-2010, 06:05 AM

Hold on so I take both creatine mono and no2 xplode? What creatine mono? Please provide links to a good creatine monohydrate and a good lean bulking diet that works. You may delay my decision of using steroids by a few years here.. Thanks

**G4R** · 07-08-2010, 06:18 AM

Originally Posted by bloynad

Thanks, I have already read that and currently the exact same build as my dad, height and weight so I'm more than less certain I have reached my final figure. If you can't recommend me a starting cycle then what is the best creatine to use, I tried all of the no-xplode, super pump etc..

Originally Posted by bloynad

Hold on so I take both creatine mono and no2 xplode? What creatine mono? Please provide links to a good creatine monohydrate and a good lean bulking diet that works. You may delay my decision of using steroids by a few years here.. Thanks

Here are some links for diet info:
Hardgainer? Can't gain weight? READ THIS!!!
UNoffical "How to Bulk" thread and sample diet...
HERE IS...gain lean muscle mass kind of diet...

The diet section is full of useful information, check it out.

As far as you reaching your full potential because you are the same height as your dad, doesnt mean much. I outgrew my Dad by 2", my Mom by 6". My Dad weighs 150lbs soaking wet, my Mom weighs 140lbs, I weighed 215lbs with a BF of 14% (which is too high for steroids ) before I ever started any steroids. Your max potential is above and beyond what you believe it is. But, it all depends on your diet and training. Steroids are a last resort, not a 'I'll give it a try' type of thing.

I dont know a lot about all the supplements out there, so I wont be able to help you there. But like I said, I can tell you to get your diet in check for a few years, and dedicate yourself to a good bulking diet, and serious training.