Winny and weight gain?

[bdodge2]

I just started winny at 50mg ed for the last 6 weeks of my cut cycle.

I had dropped 12lb so far, but since adding winny I have gone up 4lb in 5 days with no change in diet?

I thought it should help lean me out?

cycle was

1-6 - tbol 60mg ed
1-12 sust 250 - 125 eod
8-12 - tren 75 eod
9-14 - winny 50 ed

pct start at week 15.

[G4R]

You have gained 4lbs now?

I put on BF really easy. That is why I said I looked like crap after this weekend because I know I got back to the 15% mark....

What is your current BF% ?
If gaining BF is a problem like you have stated, it may be time to take a look at your diet. What does your diet look like?

[bdodge2]

I have gained 4 lb in the past 5 days since starting winny.....I had dropped 12 over the past 3 weeks.

I am 6'1" - the 3pt cal test says 9.5% but I know it is off by about 2...so I would say 11-11.5%.

I posted my diet in the diet and nutrition section...but here it is
Diet:
8am
myofusion shake(gasperi nutrition,50g pro, 10g c, 6gf) flax meal, fish oil -
Greens+

10:30 am
1/2 cup steel cut oats
4-6 oz protien
2 cups greens - ie broccolli/beans/spinach/brussel sprouts
or
2 eggs/8 egg whites 2 cups spinach plus oats

11:30 - protein shake
1-2 cups greens - ie broccolli/beans/spinach/brussel sprouts
or
4 oz protien, chicken, fish, beef
2 cups greens - ie broccolli/beans/spinach/brussel sprouts


1:30-2 Post workout Shake - Whey protein
or 6-8 oz protien
1/2 cup steel cut oats or low GI carb. yams etc

4pm
1/4 cup almonds
1-2 cup greens ie broccolli peas, beans,
4 oz protein

6:30 pm
6-8 oz protein
2 cups mixed greens
1 tbls olive oil
sometimes - 1 cup low gi carb ie yams, quinoa,

9:30 pm
casien protien shake
1 tbls almond butter
1 tbls fish oil

This usually works out to around 2250 cal per day split 40pro/20-25 carb/35-40% fat 220-230 g protien, 110-125g carbs, 90-95g fat

I have just changed workout routines to a EDT type....increased volume and HIT for better calorie burn. I also usually have 30 min cardio post workout or 45-50 min later in the day.

I can't figure the stall out...if my baseline is 3180 (212 x 15) then to loose 2 lb per week I am at 2180 per day. Adding in 500-600 cal of excercise 5 days a week, so eating even 2500 - 2700 cal per day I should be loosing at least 2lb per week if not more.

[G4R]

Hmmm. Your diet looks pretty decent. That is odd.

How many cycles have you run before?
I assume you are injecting Tren A correct?

[bdodge2]

I have run test only cycles before all at 500mg/week.

Tren A is EOD yes injected mixed ...so .5ml sust250 and 1ml tren a 75.

I am wondering first if the new vial of tren is underdosed as my sides have gone away prety much once i opend the second vial...and also if dropping the post workout cardio in favour of an HIT longer higher volume workout is changing things up a bit?

Finally I wonder how much of a weight loss I had when I stopped the 6 weeks of t-bol kickstart....everyone was saying how big I was getting....and I noticed a decrease in my delts and bi's when it stopped. I thought the tren would pick it up though.

I know, I know don't look at the scales...but I am getting obsessive in dropping the belly fat and love handles...I was 235 and 35% bf 16 months ago after a 4 year layoff and alcohol abuse. I dropped to 196 at 18% then started to bulk. Now I am 216 at 10-11%.. I have taken 5" off my waist. I want to get to 7-8% or at leaset get rid of the chub at the handles and front stomach. I am getting vascular on my chest, shoulders, quads, bi's, but I look like I still have a chick bump in the front. Maybe I'm pregnant.

[carbo]

dont mean to hijack - how do rate the Tbol for kick starting your cycle compared to Dbol?

[bdodge2]

loved it............
great strength gains, little bloat,
everyone noticed how big I got quick.

there were a bunch a posts on other boards about t-bol lately....all good.