Results 1 to 11 of 11
Thread: Sore tendon (bicep?)
-
07-08-2010, 08:09 AM #1
Sore tendon (bicep?)
Guys,
I'm noticing some growing soreness/pain in the inside lower part of my elbow.
I'm on my second week of a Test cycle, and training has been slightly more frequent and slightly heavier than usual (not pushing too hard though).
I've been training for 10+ years so I'm a bit surprised seeing that my tendons aren't up for the weight or frequency.
What are my best options to still train but without making matters worse here? Right now I'm thinking I will take one day off from training and then start two days from now with legs and shoulders (not too much strain on the arms). Should I rest more and is there anything (like Paracetamol?) I can take to combat any inflammation?
Thank you,
BL
-
07-08-2010, 08:18 AM #2
Anabolic Voice of Reason
- Join Date
- Jan 2008
- Location
- Scenic Purgatory
- Posts
- 3,859
Is it hurting all the time, or is it hurting to pick things up, or does it hurt to exert force (starting from a bent arm, extending to locking the elbow against weight)? Is the pain local to the elbow, or does it radiate into your forearms or biceps (or both)?
-
07-08-2010, 08:28 AM #3
Thanks for your reply,
No soreness or pain in the lower or upper arm and I can bend and extend the arms fine. The soreness/pain is very much local to the inside of the elbow (not the bone but soft tissue). I can't say its were the bicep connects (seems lower than that) or if its where some forearm muscles connect, but pressing lightly there and its very sore.
Best I can describe location is if you hold out your arm as if throwing a punch (turning the hand in the punch), then the spot is right in the middle of the elbow but in the lower 1/3 portion.
-
07-08-2010, 08:36 AM #4
Anabolic Voice of Reason
- Join Date
- Jan 2008
- Location
- Scenic Purgatory
- Posts
- 3,859
Hmmmm. Check out the pic. Would you say it is around the 'Medial Epicondyle' ?
-
07-08-2010, 08:38 AM #5
Yes, that must be it!
-
07-08-2010, 08:46 AM #6
Seeing that picture (thanks!), I think I know what the problem is coming from: for the last few years when training my back, I have been using special straps ('Better Bodies' thick leather straps with metal hooks) to offload my hands and forearms and be able to isolate and pull more from the back muscles (lat pull-downs and barbell one arm row), but one of the straps broke a few weeks back and I haven't been using them. Total chock to my forearms then! That's gotta be it.
-
07-08-2010, 08:54 AM #7
Anabolic Voice of Reason
- Join Date
- Jan 2008
- Location
- Scenic Purgatory
- Posts
- 3,859
Well, it sounds like you know what caused it, but I will go ahead and throw up the info I was able to find on it just in case you want to check it out....
Physical
Tenderness with palpation over the anterior aspect of the medial epicondyle is the most consistent finding. Other characteristics of ME include the following:
•Typically, pain is reproduced with resisted wrist flexion or resisted forearm pronation.
•Occasionally, the area of tenderness extends approximately 1 inch toward the proximal flexor-pronator muscle mass just distal to the epicondyle.
•The range of motion of the elbow and wrist is usually within normal limits.
•Patients may have symptoms of an ulnar neuropathy (eg, decreased sensation in the ulnar nerve distribution, a positive elbow-flexion test, a positive Tinel sign). In more severe cases, decreased sensation is associated with intrinsic weakness; intrinsic muscle atrophy may be noted.
Causes
The causes of ME include the following:
•The condition can result from the repetitive use of flexor-pronator muscles, especially with valgus stress at the medial epicondyle.
•The onset can be related to the patient's occupation (if, for example, his/her job requires repetitive actions, such as the consistent use of a screwdriver or hammer). •ME's onset can accompany acute injury.
•An excessive topspin in tennis, excessive grip tension, improper pitching techniques in baseball, and an improper golf swing are common sports-related causes of ME.
Rehabilitation Program
Physical Therapy
The physician may recommend that the patient with ME receive physical or occupational therapy. The discipline of therapy usually depends on the type of facility available, the accessibility of therapists, and physician preference. The proper means of treatment for ME are discussed below, in the Occupational Therapy section.
Occupational Therapy
Treatment begins with rest, ice, compression, and bracing, to decrease pain and inflammation. One to 6 weeks of relative rest of the affected muscles and tendons is typically advised, until discomfort subsides. Icing is employed for 5-10 minutes, 4-6 times per day and is particularly important if a patient presents after an acute event. Patients should be instructed to avoid icing over the ulnar nerve.
Compression with a medial counterforce brace (ie, a tennis elbow splint) with a pad placed anteromedially on the proximal forearm over the flexor-pronator mass is routine. Discontinue if symptoms of an ulnar neuropathy worsen. In addition, if the symptoms are severe, brace with a wrist splint worn in the neutral position in order to rest the wrist flexors. In milder cases, a counterbalance brace may be used alone instead of a rigid splint; this limits extremes of motion while allowing some movement for functional activities. In the case of ulnar nerve involvement, a nighttime elbow extension splint should be considered. The splint is made in 30-45 º of elbow flexion. A daytime elbow pad also may be useful, by limiting additional trauma to the nerve.
After the patient's initial discomfort has subsided, a rehabilitation program with an occupational therapist should be initiated for muscle/tendon reconditioning. Begin with gentle stretching and add gradual strengthening of the flexor-pronator muscles, as the patient tolerates. Follow this with functional activities and with patient education aimed at avoiding re-injury.
Surgical Intervention
Epicondylar debridement is rarely indicated but has proven to be effective in cases in which conservative treatment has failed. In addition, the ulnar nerve may be decompressed surgically.
Consultations
Referral to an orthopedic surgeon is appropriate after 6-10 months if conservative treatment fails.
Other Treatment
If conservative measures fail, injection with local anesthetic and steroid to the point of maximal tenderness is appropriate. Special care should be taken to avoid injection directly into the tendon or the ulnar nerve. If concern for dislocation of the ulnar nerve exists, the injection should be performed with the elbow extended or semiflexed. The number of injections should be limited to 3 to decrease the risk of tendon atrophy or rupture. Short-term relief of discomfort with cortisone injection may be expected, but a complete rehabilitation program, as previously described, is a more effective and long-lasting way to treat ME.
Medication
Nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs), taken orally, are the medicines of choice for ME to help control pain and any associated inflammation. NSAIDs are used on average only for the first 7-10 days of the treatment period. For the patient, taking these medications with food may help to decrease the possible gastrointestinal side effects. The following list is not meant to be comprehensive but simply to provide examples of options.
Nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs
NSAIDs have analgesic, anti-inflammatory, and antipyretic activities. Their mechanism of action is not known, but they may inhibit cyclo-oxygenase activity and prostaglandin synthesis. Other mechanisms may exist as well, such as inhibition of leukotriene synthesis, lysosomal enzyme release, lipoxygenase activity, neutrophil aggregation, and various cell-membrane functions.
-
07-09-2010, 03:16 AM #8
This morning I woke up with bruising in that very spot so there's definitely at least a small tear on the tendon or muscle head. I've decided not to use this arm until Monday and to stay out free weights for a while. In addition, should I consider Deca to speed recovery and help support tendons? I have it at hand, but I've been reluctant to include it in the cycle.
-
07-09-2010, 04:36 AM #9
Anabolic Voice of Reason
- Join Date
- Jan 2008
- Location
- Scenic Purgatory
- Posts
- 3,859
In your situation, I would say no. If it is a small tear, then you should go have it looked at, the deca wont help that. I would go get it checked out to be on the safe side, then keep it rested (plus whatever the doctor says you should do).
-
07-09-2010, 04:47 AM #10
OK, will do: I will go to the village snake doctor tomorrow.
Thanks for all your help.
-
07-09-2010, 04:51 AM #11
Anabolic Voice of Reason
- Join Date
- Jan 2008
- Location
- Scenic Purgatory
- Posts
- 3,859
NP
Good luck
Thread Information
Users Browsing this Thread
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Expired dbol (blue hearts)
01-11-2025, 04:00 PM in ANABOLIC STEROIDS - QUESTIONS & ANSWERS