wierd cycle question

[bbmatt23]

ok every one i got kind of a wierd question , im 29 and just started a dbol only cycle (loving it by the way) i got some nolvadex on hand for my pct or in case of side's showing up, and i want to know if any one has smoke on a cycle and if they had any bad sides mainly im talking about like any kind of liver pain or thing, i have been good so far don't smoke to much, but i was just wondering if some one might have insight on this i stopped drinking while im on it before some says some thing about that... but just want to know if any one smoke's while on a cycle,, thnx

[Nooomoto]

Wow...you need to do some research, homeboy.

[Vullfromsc]

dbol only is so pointless... and yes you can smoke

[bbmatt23]

Wow...you need to do some research, homeboy.

hey HOME BOY why don't you inlighten me there dude what is it you feel i need to know

[bbmatt23]

as far as the dbol( only) im using it in a low dosage not feeling i need a high dose or any thing im good size and shape already just looking to ad a little extra,.. shall we say hmmfff to my work out. And as far as the home boy over there talking out his @ss i did plenty of reasearch there buddy thnx , it was a simple liver question every thing passes through your liver so thats really all i was thinking about.

[Vullfromsc]

what is your whole cycle layout (in weeks/doses) ? and pct plan?

[robofish]

Why not do test with ur dbol...

[Times Roman]

as far as the dbol( only) im using it in a low dosage not feeling i need a high dose or any thing im good size and shape already just looking to ad a little extra,.. shall we say hmmfff to my work out. And as far as the home boy over there talking out his @ss i did plenty of reasearch there buddy thnx , it was a simple liver question every thing passes through your liver so thats really all i was thinking about.

easy bro'.... show some respect, tempers flare easy.

Ok, having said that, there are a couple of things you should consider with an oral only cycle, that I found out personally, first hand, AGAINST the advice of some of the more experienced, wiser members here, including Nooomoto. I regretted not heeding their advice.

Here's what I found out first hand.

Do you have a woman?
Silly question, right?
But a dbol only cycle will kill your libido, or desire for sex. Yep, it's true. So while you are working out, looking all buff 'n stuff, your woman will be wanting some, but you won't be interested. You just won't think about it or be in the mood. So now your woman starts thinking something's going on.... you are always wanting some, now you don't. Maybe, she thinks, he's getting some on the side and isnt' interested in me anymore? Helluva headtrip this will throw on your woman. And besides, who really wants to give up pusssy, right? These symptoms will continue as long as you are on the dbol only cycle. After you stop, it will continue for as long as your cycle lasted. So say your cycle lasted 4 weeks. So now you are up to 8 weeks of symptoms. PLUS, your symptoms don't necessarily come back right away. Could take months. (Sometimes they NEVER come back!!)

Second. Dbol gains are mostly water. Why is this important? Because once you come off cycle, you will, more than likely, lose 85% of all yuor gains in a very short period of time. So you are, more or less, right back where you started, except for those damn symptoms I mentioned above.

Thirdly. We all know about protecting the liver. I'm sure you do, right?

Fourthly. I know when I used to smoke, first thing to go was motivation, which for me is counter intuitive with the necessary focus necessary for working out.

Fifthly. This site promotes a healthy lifestyle, to include diet, exercise, cardio, and a serious and healthy respect for aas. If you are smoking, I'd probably have to question your diet. If you are doing a dbol only cycle, I'd have to question your serious and healthy respect for aas.

Sixthly. Aas should be the very last thing you add to your program, and only after a couple of years of right exercise, right diet, and right knowledge.

Here's how you start. Go to the diet and exercise tabs on this bulletin board. Post your diet and exercise routines in the appropriate sections for us to see and critique. I think this would be a good first step for you.

[bbmatt23]

Well that's a good question and the answer is that while i understand it would be more benifical to run some tes with it and i would see more gains , i hate needles and im talking the pill wich means it more liver toxic and i dont want ad to the problem .. also my dbol cycle (I think) is a good one. Not to strong, yet after only a couple of days i notice im responding well to a small dosage.. 30mg a day for a four week cycle and then through in some nolvadex towards (small dosage) the end and two week's of pct with it @ 20mg a day in the first pct week then lower it down to 10mg for the last week.

[bbmatt23]

First off my man that message wasn't for you so the hole respect thing is on your end my man not mine,, and second of all like i said just started been a week im doing a 4 week cycle and it's low dose i have not had any problem and i have pct worked out with some clomid and nolva... on to the hole my ladys thinking some thing casue i couldn't get it up (has not been a problem so far)
dude im 30 years old my man and been with my women for years trust me she knows the scoop dude so not worried...
and th whole on the whole thing i been smoking since i was 14 and i guess im wierd cause i personaly find smoking a little before i go work out not only helps the focus but in some way helps with the sourness that comes with working out,.. dont know maybe thats be cause i been doing it like that for ever ..any how modivation is not a problem and i have been working out sense i was in jr high DUDE!

[D7M]

edit out the recreational drug talk in your first post, Matt

[Times Roman]

First off my man that message wasn't for you so the hole respect thing is on your end my man not mine,, and second of all like i said just started been a week im doing a 4 week cycle and it's low dose i have not had any problem and i have pct worked out with some clomid and nolva... on to the hole my ladys thinking some thing casue i couldn't get it up (has not been a problem so far)
dude im 30 years old my man and been with my women for years trust me she knows the scoop dude so not worried...
and th whole on the whole weed thing i been smoking since i was 14 and i guess im wierd cause i personaly find smoking a little weed before i go work out not only helps the focus but in some way helps with the sourness that comes with working out,.. dont know maybe thats be cause i been doing it like that for ever ..any how modivation is not a problem and i have been working out sense i was in jr high DUDE!

I guess you told me! I tremble in the presence of your awesomeness!!!

[cobra305]

It is another Hi I want advice but only tell me what I want to hear... Can't wait for your thread titled I can't get an erection. Good luck you will need it. One more thing how long is your pct?

[bbmatt23]

thats funny stuff im not going to argue over the internet my man why you even thought i was talking to you i don't know i don't care you jumped in to say some thing that i thought was what i feel a common miss conception about smoking that's all.. just wanted to know if any one smoked on or during a cycle.
ps. I plan on doing a 2 week pct,

[Times Roman]

thats funny stuff im not going to argue over the internet my man why you even thought i was talking to you i don't know i don't care you jumped to say some thing that was a what i feel a common miss conception about smoking that's all.. just wanted to know if any one smoked on or during a cycle.
ps. I plan on doing a 2 week pct,

You are speaking in a public forum, which means you are speaking to us all. If you want to speak one on one with someone, then you can private message them.

[bbmatt23]

You are speaking in a public forum, which means you are speaking to us all. If you want to speak one on one with someone, then you can private message them.

this being a public forum has nothing to do with nothing you are in fact in tittled to think what ever you want ... you said
" easy bro'.... show some respect, tempers flare easy".

this is the part that i was talking about where i said the message all though being in a public forum in fact was not ment for your self!

[oldschoolfitness]

yeah dude the smoking thing really does work well right before a workout. first 2-4 cycles (test only) i ran me and my buddy did the same thing and i could get really intense and focused. also stayed hungry all the time but in a good way. as far as the cycle goes nothing wrong with a low dose you will see some results(varies a lot) next time run a fair amount of test also and forget the whole needle fear. one more thing man take it easy on these guys here i know some answers seem rude but there only opinons nothing personal. there is a lot of good people on here so why not stick around bro. good luck with the cycle and enjoy the smoke my days are long gone .

[JJ78]

To the OP.

Youre a *****. Scared of needles?
Dont be such a puss. Does youre girl know that ur such a puss.

[bbmatt23]

Hey my man thnx for the reply not trying to be an as$ i just felt he was kinda being rude and thats all. I had read this forum for a while before i even typed a word or any thing and i think there is some very good advice .. just thought the guy was being rude.Any how thnxs for the reply and happy smoking

[upperhandy]

you will likely not be able to keep any of the gains you will see out of a 4-week low dose d-bol cycle
waste of time and liver damage

[Nooomoto]

I had read this forum for a while before i even typed a word or any thing

Did you miss all of the dbol only threads where we discuss at length why it's such a bad idea? Apparently...

Reading the forum "for a while" does no good if you ignore everything you're supposed to be learning from reading.

[Big]

hell I was still waiting for you to answer the questions waiting for you in this thread
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=430475

[jondoe777]

easy bro'.... show some respect, tempers flare easy.

Ok, having said that, there are a couple of things you should consider with an oral only cycle, that I found out personally, first hand, AGAINST the advice of some of the more experienced, wiser members here, including Nooomoto. I regretted not heeding their advice.

Here's what I found out first hand.

Do you have a woman?
Silly question, right?
But a dbol only cycle will kill your libido, or desire for sex. Yep, it's true. So while you are working out, looking all buff 'n stuff, your woman will be wanting some, but you won't be interested. You just won't think about it or be in the mood. So now your woman starts thinking something's going on.... you are always wanting some, now you don't. Maybe, she thinks, he's getting some on the side and isnt' interested in me anymore? Helluva headtrip this will throw on your woman. And besides, who really wants to give up pusssy, right? These symptoms will continue as long as you are on the dbol only cycle. After you stop, it will continue for as long as your cycle lasted. So say your cycle lasted 4 weeks. So now you are up to 8 weeks of symptoms. PLUS, your symptoms don't necessarily come back right away. Could take months. (Sometimes they NEVER come back!!)

Second. Dbol gains are mostly water. Why is this important? Because once you come off cycle, you will, more than likely, lose 85% of all yuor gains in a very short period of time. So you are, more or less, right back where you started, except for those damn symptoms I mentioned above.

Thirdly. We all know about protecting the liver. I'm sure you do, right?

Fourthly. I know when I used to smoke, first thing to go was motivation, which for me is counter intuitive with the necessary focus necessary for working out.

Fifthly. This site promotes a healthy lifestyle, to include diet, exercise, cardio, and a serious and healthy respect for aas. If you are smoking, I'd probably have to question your diet. If you are doing a dbol only cycle, I'd have to question your serious and healthy respect for aas.

Sixthly. Aas should be the very last thing you add to your program, and only after a couple of years of right exercise, right diet, and right knowledge.

Here's how you start. Go to the diet and exercise tabs on this bulletin board. Post your diet and exercise routines in the appropriate sections for us to see and critique. I think this would be a good first step for you.

I just wanted to say, "very well said"
I think that is all the info he needs

[kingkong21]

this being a public forum has nothing to do with nothing you are in fact in tittled to think what ever you want ... you said
" easy bro'.... show some respect, tempers flare easy".

this is the part that i was talking about where i said the message all though being in a public forum in fact was not ment for your self!

Don't post if you can't take constructive criticism.

And not so much that, as listen to what these people say. They know what they're talking about. They've been at it a long time. We can learn from them. No need to be stubborn.

[scotty51312]

took anadrol solo for a week then for the next week wanted sex but couldn't get it up. Take the advice from these guys they know what they're talking about when it comes to oral only cycles

[SlimJoe]

Why not do test with ur dbol...

by reading his post he obvious does not no how to cycle i would recomend research and more research before taking any anabolic and as far as the question pointless cycle dbol only is just going to f**k your liver up and may close your test down pointless dbol only in my eyes peace out!

[Nooomoto]

by reading his post he obvious does not no how to cycle i would recomend research and more research before taking any anabolic and as far as the question pointless cycle dbol only is just going to f**k your liver up and may close your test down pointless dbol only in my eyes peace out!

I gather from his spelling that research and learning has not been a big part of his life. He will probably just have to learn the hard way.