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    Best oral only cycle for soeone who cant inject

    a freind of mine has a number of years experance when i comes to steroids but last year he had a very bad injection (into a vain) now he cant bring himself to inject anymore so he has asked me to try and draw him up a good orl only cycle ,i myself have a good knowage of steroid use and here is what i have come up with for oral only cycle

    DONTS- ANADROL /DBOL /WINSTROL

    MAYBES- ANAVAR /TBOL/ANDROIL

    CYCLE 1- 80MGS NAVAR PER DAY FOR 8 WEEKS

    CYCLE 2- 60MGS TBOL FOR 8 WEEKS

    CYCLE 3 200MGS ANDROIL FOR 10 WEEKS

    now i know any of the above cycle is not idea to the world of steroid cycles but given the situation what are your thoughts?

    BTW HIS STATS ARE -

    AGE 29

    HIGHT 5,8

    WEIGHT AROUND 205LBS

    BODY FAT IS AROUND 10%

    DIET IS GOOD AND HE HAS AROUND 7 YEARS WORTH OF GOOD SOLID LIFTING TO ADD.

    ANY COMMENTS ARE GREATLY ACCEPTED.

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    I would go with cycle 1 + mesterolone (proviron ) @ 100 mg ed.
    They work very well together and by keeping up the LH values (proviron) the PCT might be much easier.

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    If he isnt going to inject again then I dont think going down the AAS route is for him to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    If he isnt going to inject again then I dont think going down the AAS route is for him to be honest.
    hmmm i disagree somehwat there man ,no disrepect but if you injected 2ml of tren direct into a vain i think it would put you off ,lets say that the world was rid of injectable steroids and orals were the only option would you use them? am sure you would ,i am sure that he will get his balls back and inject in the future put for now he would like to do an good oral only cycle (if there is such a thing lol)

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    if your/hes not going to inject you/he would be best not bothering with aas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suttie View Post
    hmmm i disagree somehwat there man ,no disrepect but if you injected 2ml of tren direct into a vain i think it would put you off ,lets say that the world was rid of injectable steroids and orals were the only option would you use them? am sure you would ,i am sure that he will get his balls back and inject in the future put for now he would like to do an good oral only cycle (if there is such a thing lol)
    you'd have to be pretty stupid to do that

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    Quote Originally Posted by suttie View Post
    hmmm i disagree somehwat there man ,no disrepect but if you injected 2ml of tren direct into a vain i think it would put you off ,lets say that the world was rid of injectable steroids and orals were the only option would you use them? am sure you would ,i am sure that he will get his balls back and inject in the future put for now he would like to do an good oral only cycle (if there is such a thing lol)
    Who on earth would inject 2ml into a vein, if that's what he did i would defo recommend him to take steroids ever again, he needs to understand proper injection methods.

    If he isnt going to inject again then he is wasting his time using steroids, orals can be very harsh on the body and results can be lame, the only way forward with steroids is with injections, if it wasnt we would all be taking orals wouldnt we.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    you'd have to be pretty stupid to do that
    no no i dont mean he done a iv injection ,he injected into his upper outer glute with a 1 1/4 23g pin ,fully aspirated got no blood and bang ,huge fit (a mild embloisem) the only thing that could of happened is it went into a vain.

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    I accidentally injected into a vein two nights ago. 1 ml of test and 1 ml of tren . I aspirated but noticed i moved the needle some while injecting. Syringe filled with blodd when i let off the plunger and the next 10 minutes were hell. Cold sweats, nausea, and trouble breathing. But after that i was fine. I shot the next day with no problem. Tell him to man up and that you cant be scared of injecting in this game

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    if you touch a vein blood comes flying into the needle when your aspirate , took me like 10 seconds to suck in 2ml of blood into the needle when I was just being bored, and trust me you feel when you hit/nick a vein, so IMO it's a good story I just don't believe it, considering I've done like 500 injections in my glutes and grinded around in there with the needle at 1 1/2 and never hit a vein.

    so man up, and inject~
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    Quote Originally Posted by CanYouDigIt View Post
    if you touch a vein blood comes flying into the needle when your aspirate , took me like 10 seconds to suck in 2ml of blood into the needle when I was just being bored, and trust me you feel when you hit/nick a vein, so IMO it's a good story I just don't believe it, considering I've done like 500 injections in my glutes and grinded around in there with the needle at 1 1/2 and never hit a vein.

    so man up, and inject~
    LOL at your boredom habits haha!

    and to the OP, oral only is ill-advised therefore if your friend(or you) is afraid of injecting then forget about AAS IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    you'd have to be pretty stupid to do that
    COMPLETELY!

    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Who on earth would inject 2ml into a vein,
    PERPOSTEROUS!
    THAT'S NOT EVEN POSSIBLE, YOU'D BEGIN SUFFERING ILL EFFECTS INSTANTANEOUSLY, AND NEVER GET THE WHOLE DOSE IN!


    if that's what he did i would defo recommend him to take steroids ever again, he needs to understand proper injection methods.
    If he isnt going to inject again then he is wasting his time using steroids, orals can be very harsh on the body and results can be lame, the only way forward with steroids is with injections, if it wasnt we would all be taking orals wouldnt we.
    AGREED!
    No disrespect to you Suttie, but the immutable laws of physiology refute your entire account, making the whole story sound contrived.

    Apparently, this "friend" isn't being forthright with you, at least not completely!

    That said, all of the options you cited are viable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magic32 View Post
    COMPLETELY!


    No disrespect to you Suttie, but the immutable laws of physiology refute your entire account, making the whole story sound contrived.

    Apparently, this "friend" isn't being forthright with you, at least not completely!

    That said, all of the options you cited are viable.
    Best to you, er, ah, him.
    hahaha i miss you magic

    priceless

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    Quote Originally Posted by magic32 View Post
    COMPLETELY!


    No disrespect to you Suttie, but the immutable laws of physiology refute your entire account, making the whole story sound contrived.

    Apparently, this "friend" isn't being forthright with you, at least not completely!

    That said, all of the options you cited are viable.
    Best to you, er, ah, him.
    ok ill leave this thread to die if thats the attude and feedback that is to be ,as i said i have a number of years experance in steroids myself so an oral only cycle is not for me ,i am infact about to start a test prop/npp/winny cycle so whatever you want to belive then let it be just that ,thanks for the possitive imput i recived here .

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    Quote Originally Posted by suttie View Post
    no no i dont mean he done a iv injection ,he injected into his upper outer glute with a 1 1/4 23g pin ,fully aspirated got no blood and bang ,huge fit (a mild embloisem) the only thing that could of happened is it went into a vain.
    he needs to be more careful with needle movement then

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    I think the story is BS.

    He's just afraid of needles.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgb6810 View Post
    I think the story is BS.

    He's just afraid of needles.......
    why on earth would you post this ? i cant understand why some of you senior mods/vets/ect would post this sort of comment ,the story is true ,have you ever injected gear into a vain by mistake? from what he told me its not a very nice thing at all so for you to come out and post your silly ass comment like you did is BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suttie View Post
    why on earth would you post this ? i cant understand why some of you senior mods/vets/ect would post this sort of comment ,the story is true ,have you ever injected gear into a vain by mistake? from what he told me its not a very nice thing at all so for you to come out and post your silly ass comment like you did is BS.
    its kinda hard tht a grown man cant come on here and find out for himself, why would he send a friend? is it not you? i think thts what cgb means by bs

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    anadroil? (oral test)
    I did some reading, real expensive, and you have to take a very large amount.

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    Just chiming in, I have done an anavar only cycle before with great strength gains, lost 4% body fat, and I was vascularized as hell. 6 weeks 60-80mgs a day is sufficient I would not suggest running it any longer as about 90% of my gains were by week 6.

    Also, I must say even though my oral only cycle was a huge success, when I added 500mgs of testosterone ethanate to it I felt an even greater difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suttie View Post
    why on earth would you post this ? i cant understand why some of you senior mods/vets/ect would post this sort of comment ,the story is true ,have you ever injected gear into a vain by mistake? from what he told me its not a very nice thing at all so for you to come out and post your silly ass comment like you did is BS.
    Like i said i have and its not like it scarred me for life. It sucked but i was ovr it by my next injection the next day

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    If he isnt going to inject again then I dont think going down the AAS route is for him to be honest.
    ...x2

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    I don't know why the harsh comments OP I've seen numerous threads from people who have injected into veins causing an embolism. It could be the fact you state he injected 2mls directly into the vein when more than likely he nicked a vein and a small amount entered NOT 2mls
    This is what happens when "friends" start threads for "friends"

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    Quote Originally Posted by suttie View Post
    a freind of mine has a number of years experance when i comes to steroids but last year he had a very bad injection (into a vain) now he cant bring himself to inject anymore so he has asked me to try and draw him up a good orl only cycle ,i myself have a good knowage of steroid use and here is what i have come up with for oral only cycle

    DONTS- ANADROL /DBOL /WINSTROL

    MAYBES- ANAVAR /TBOL/ANDROIL

    CYCLE 1- 80MGS NAVAR PER DAY FOR 8 WEEKS

    CYCLE 2- 60MGS TBOL FOR 8 WEEKS

    CYCLE 3 200MGS ANDROIL FOR 10 WEEKS

    now i know any of the above cycle is not idea to the world of steroid cycles but given the situation what are your thoughts?

    BTW HIS STATS ARE -

    AGE 29

    HIGHT 5,8

    WEIGHT AROUND 205LBS

    BODY FAT IS AROUND 10%

    DIET IS GOOD AND HE HAS AROUND 7 YEARS WORTH OF GOOD SOLID LIFTING TO ADD.

    ANY COMMENTS ARE GREATLY ACCEPTED.
    ANAVAR 40-60mg daily for 10-12 weeks.

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