Will T3 + Clen hinder my gains?

[Kkim]

Hello first of all i would like to start out with my stats.

25 years old
6'0
208lbs



All cycles relative low doses never over 500mg test, gained good each time because of my strict diet + great intensive training.

Im going to do my next cycle soon, because it's soon 5-6 months since i last cycled, and i feel my body is ready for another shot, and so do my mind.
I want lean mass + cut bodyfat down.

1-8 150mg Test P EOD
1-8 100mg Tren A EOD
1-8 100mg Mast P EOD
1-8 100mg Winstrol EOD
PCT: Nolva,Clomid + Hcg.. 1 week after last inject.

My question is, could i add t3 for week 2-8 and clen 2 weeks on 2 off? Would it hinder my gains, or even make me loose weight!? Im thinking of peaking 75mcg T3 + 80mcg Clen, goal is to drop bodyfat even more, but if they would hinder my gains dramatlicy or make me loose weight i wouldn't.

[Kkim]

Anyone :-D?

[magic32]

No problem running those on cycle.
Clen is best run continuously with a 1st generation antihistamine like Benadryl (SEE: profile again)

[Kkim]

Ok, so I can run Clen + T3 in this ''Lean mass'' cycle. But im still wondering if I ran 8 weeks prop,tren,mast,wins + clen/t3 peak 75mcg and 80-100mcg, would it still be possible to gain lets say 5-10lbs lean mass and burning a lot of fat?

[Kkim]

Anyone? would really like to get an answer to my question.

[8iron]

Very possiable, but a lot of that will also depend on ur diet during this cycle!

[Kkim]

I think I might just stay with Clen and drop the T3.

[D7M]

Like Magic said you can certainly run T3/clen on cycle, and no, ceteris paribus, it won't hinder your gains.

But that's a bit much for a 4th cycle, and I don't think you need ALL those compounds to add muscle/drop fat (especially mast and winny for 8 weeks).

Winny should be taken ED, because of it's half life, and I'd start pct 4 days after last injection.

[magic32]

^^^Wholly agreed, and twice daily on the Win.

[Bigdog99]

Well I may not have the most experience on this subject, but I can tell you that I just ran T3 + Clen on my Test/Tren cycle. I think I probably would have gained a little more muscle without it, however I dropped a significant amount of fat. I was sweating like a madman almost all the time.....at the gym forget about it....I was dripping with sweat just looking at the weights. I will run them again on my next cycle. Loved the results, everyone around me has noticed that I am dropping fat and getting cut up. So as far as hindering your gains...I would have to say a qualified no.....if you were doing to bulking cycle, I think it may hinder your gains a little....but since you want to cut...I think you will like the results as much as I did.

[Kkim]

Ok, so im settled on running Clen + T3 along with my cycle. Though I will peak 75mcg t3 + 80-100mcg clen, no need for higher, and i never run more than 120mcg clen + 75mcg t3 anyhow. I don't have very high bodyfat, but im hoping to gain some lean muscles and get shredded down and very lean.

1 Question. Can I drop the Winstrol? I don't want to risk anything with my joints, and just to cut down on the gear, since the more is not always better, I really think Winstrol would be useless in this cycle?

[Bigdog99]

Winstrol doesn't do much for me. Some people love it. I don't. I think you will be fine without it.

[anabolix112]

Ok, so im settled on running Clen + T3 along with my cycle. Though I will peak 75mcg t3 + 80-100mcg clen, no need for higher, and i never run more than 120mcg clen + 75mcg t3 anyhow. I don't have very high bodyfat, but im hoping to gain some lean muscles and get shredded down and very lean.

1 Question. Can I drop the Winstrol? I don't want to risk anything with my joints, and just to cut down on the gear, since the more is not always better, I really think Winstrol would be useless in this cycle?

Let me make you a suggestion.

What you might want to drop would be clen.

You want to gain lean muscles and prolly cut down fat at the same time.

Take just T3. Don't drop winstrol, you will actually need that there. Excellent combination. But what you could do is to run Winny and Tren not both at the same time completely.

T3 allows you to consume more food and build muscles if you have anabolic compound which works on low calorie diet (well you are having kinda low calory diet but instead you can actually eat more and increase your protein synthesis with T3+winny, you will be fastforwarding with that combo).

Loved the combination of T3 + Winstrol + Prop when i was in little holiday and enjoyed training and eating well and haha yea i remember having pocket full of winny tabs which i popped all the time since they were cheap and tasty and it was just few weeks experimental thing during holiday. Came back after 3.5weeks to home and few fellow trainers were like WTF happened. Gained loads, was wellbeing and able to enjoy my holiday without that crappy clen feeling or any other stimulants and was pretty much ripped and well had to do shoulders with bit heavier weights since in that country ppl are pretty small and biggest weights werent that huge. Don't really usually train that bodypart other than few sets on chest day and light weights + some isolating movements. Well no supplements there so it was like ronnie coleman, chicken chicken chicken and good spicy food with rice, veggies + good fats and food was cheap when eating out so it was not uncommon to order 2-3 meals at once + leftovers from gf. I felt pretty much welcome when i entered those favourite restaurants hehe Taper down the T3 and dont run it too long it kicks back eventually a bit. Then you might want to consider clen.

Wassup with the clen... If you can say you're wellbeing on it add it later when you have done your T3 but hey, for joints, clen isn't that great choise, you will get very dry and have cramps. Just my advice

And what previous poster said about winny is prolly true. 10-20mg a day does miracles for me that i have learned. But i use to stack it with something and if i would use deca i would definetly add winny there, deca is almost the only thing that causes gyno like symptoms with its progesteronic properties which will be eliminated pretty well with winny.

Yea i know the way im talking about winny makes me candidate for winstrol commercial on TV-shop. And now that i remembered that great mass/diet combo i gotta consider getting T3 when i get started on training seriously enough.