good cycle or bad cycle?

**jklee1501** · 07-16-2010, 06:31 PM

test c 400mg- week 1 thru 10
eq 400mg- week 1 thru 10
deca 400mg- week 1 thru 10
test suspension 400mg- week 11 thru 15
tren 400mg- week 11 thru 15
winstrol 300mg- week 11 thru 15
hcg 500ed- week 17 thru 19
nolva 60 ed- week 19 thru 21
nolva 20ed- week 21 thru 22

stats:
32 yrs old
5'10"
200lbs
workout 5 days a week hard 1hr a day
cardio 5 days aweek 30mins
run 2 miles a day

your thoughts?

**Big** · 07-16-2010, 06:37 PM

Might want to add a few more compounds. Do you still have the "mini keg" for a belly you described in your last thread? What is your body fat% and cycle history?

Originally Posted by jklee1501

i have sustaplex 325, **** d-bol 50 tabs, and stanoplex 50 tabs. what would be the best way to stack the three or if it would be smart too stack.

been back working out for a few months and need to know how to combine the three for the best results. i understand pills are hard on the liver. really just need to know when and when not to take.

stats.
31 yrs old
5' 10"
195 lbs
no six pack. i have a minnie keg.

no lectures just info.

i also do 1 hr a day cardio and 1 hr weights

(a month and a half ago)^

**Times Roman** · 07-16-2010, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by Big

Might want to add a few more compounds. Do you still have the "mini keg" for a belly you described in your last thread? What is your body fat% and cycle history?

mini keg?
if so, then too soon for aas bro'

**CanYouDigIt** · 07-16-2010, 06:51 PM

either way it's a bad cycle half those components don't even kick in, in those time frames

**jklee1501** · 07-16-2010, 06:58 PM

bf 18%

past cycles: done this cycle twice.
d-bol 50mg ed week 1-4
test 500mg week 1-12
wintrol 50mg ed week 8-12

had an allergic reaction to the sustaplex 325. keg isnt that bad. just no six pack. did the d-bol and trashed the winstol last go around. thats where the 5 lbs came from. was 31 and had a birthday. does that clear up most?

**Big** · 07-16-2010, 07:10 PM

when were the cycles?
at your current stats it's debatable whether any cycle is in order, but there is absolutely no reason for the cycle proposed. why would you even include suspension? and at what injection frequency?

**jklee1501** · 07-16-2010, 07:23 PM

read test s was good at the end of a cycle. never used it and i know nobody who ever has. thats why i'm asking. i have enough to go for more weeks if needed. if i need to replace something tell me what. this is the reason i started the thread. need input. one cycle was 4 yrs ago. the other 2 yrs ago. i ate a few d-bol weeks ago. sustaplex made me fell like i had flu. also caused an infection at the injection site. another guy had no problem with the same bottle.

**Big** · 07-16-2010, 07:28 PM

the only call I see for test suspension is for athletes that are tested and are trying to beat the tests. it has to be injected multiple times per day, every day, and is quite painful. to include suspension in a cycle containing very long esters makes no sense whatsoever.
what specifically are your goals?

**jklee1501** · 07-16-2010, 07:37 PM

bulk but to lean out. never took deca or eq. i have some friends that are currently. and the results are crazy and there work out isnt anything compared to mine. tell me how you would combine. i can leave out the test s. and i can also add something else if needed.

**Big** · 07-16-2010, 07:38 PM

what were you stats before steroids ?

**jklee1501** · 07-16-2010, 07:42 PM

180lbs. not sure of the bf. more than now. broke my back on a dirt bike after last cycle. started running and working out trying to cut down some before this cycle.

**Big** · 07-16-2010, 07:47 PM

to be honest I don't think steroids are in order at all, at the most a simple test only cycle. it looks like you are trying to use a lot of compounds to make up for a lot of shortcomings elsewhere.

**Phate** · 07-16-2010, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by Big

to be honest I don't think steroids are in order at all, at the most a simple test only cycle. it looks like you are trying to use a lot of compounds to make up for a lot of shortcomings elsewhere.

co-signed

**jklee1501** · 07-16-2010, 07:50 PM

kinda hard to come back from that one.

**Phate** · 07-16-2010, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by jklee1501

kinda hard to come back from that one.

lol, no offense meant bro, but that cycle seems pointless and indirect, btw, the flu like symptoms you got from sustaplex could be from an allergy to the propionate ester

**jklee1501** · 07-16-2010, 07:55 PM

gonna stay away from that one. never felt so bad.

**Phate** · 07-16-2010, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by jklee1501

gonna stay away from that one. never felt so bad.

you will become accustomed to it over time, but i figured i'd save you the possible trial and error from figuring out what it is lol

**jklee1501** · 07-16-2010, 07:58 PM

thanks for the info.

**Big** · 07-16-2010, 08:03 PM

well many of us feel eq is pointless regardless, but it seems your stats don't add up. my brother is 5'10, 210lbs at about 16%bf and he doesn't even work out, just follows a sensible diet and has a physical job. everyone is different, but I feel you should identify any possible shortcomings in your diet and training, as well as having bloodwork to see how your levels are before you consider any cycle.