question for women, or men who know about women n training..

[wolffish]

if after a period of not training due to injury and moping and eating too much crap..

without using an substances; is it better to try to lost the weight (fat) and focus on building muscle once i've lost the fat, or to focus on building back muscle and then trying to cut the fat?!

my goals are just to look fit n hot, dont need to be massive but def no scrawny.

stats are
28
160cm
55kgs

[serratus]

if after a period of not training due to injury and moping and eating too much crap..

Without using an substances; is it better to try to lost the weight (fat) and focus on building muscle once i've lost the fat, or to focus on building back muscle and then trying to cut the fat?!

My goals are just to look fit n hot, dont need to be massive but def no scrawny.

Stats are
28
160cm
55kgs

u can t isolate your body from gaining fat while u building muscles , or losing fat without losing muscles, aas free

[BJJ]

if after a period of not training due to injury and moping and eating too much crap..

without using an substances; is it better to try to lost the weight (fat) and focus on building muscle once i've lost the fat, or to focus on building back muscle and then trying to cut the fat?!

my goals are just to look fit n hot, dont need to be massive but def no scrawny.

stats are
28
160cm
55kgs

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[BJJ]

u can t isolate your body from gaining fat while u building muscles , or losing fat without losing muscles, aas free

I disagree

[wolffish]

160cm.. 5'4" in american terms?

i realise i cant isolate each process.. but how i understand it, i'm going to build a lot less muscle if i am dieting and doing lots of cardio than if i am eating normally and training?!

[BJJ]

160cm.. 5'4" in american terms?

i realise i cant isolate each process.. but how i understand it, i'm going to build a lot less muscle if i am dieting and doing lots of cardio than if i am eating normally and training?!

Look, assuming from your first post you need to cut some fat, I would concentrate on this aspect at first.

So, the most important thing is your diet.
Do you know how to eat correctly?

Then, cardio is needed to raise your metabolism and improve your cardio-circulatory profile.

The sinergy of both, diet and cardio, can lead to achieve what you requested without using any drugs; in a longer time of course.

If, you can add also 2/3 workout sessions per week with a proper diet, you may reduce the induced catabolism and keep the most of your LBM (lean body mass).

[glover]

160cm.. 5'4" in american terms?

i realise i cant isolate each process.. but how i understand it, i'm going to build a lot less muscle if i am dieting and doing lots of cardio than if i am eating normally and training?!

That is an old myth. You can burn fat while building muscle. Escpecially if you have been out of the gym for a while. Just watch what you eat and get back in the gym!

[BJJ]

Forgot, do you have any idea about your current body fat percentage?

[wolffish]

i have no idea, no idea how to calculate without tools or professionals either.. but i know it's a lot more than it was 6-8 weeks ago before my injury! cause i couldn't sleep more tuan 3-4 hrs a night for 3 weeks or walk or drive or train so i was moody n comfort eating, alot!

not looking for advice on any gear at this point, just trying to work out how much to focus on cutting calories n how much to focus on eating enough to get my muscles back.

[Matt]

You know working out with weights can be as beneficial as doing cardio when it comes to losing bf. Your carrying a little bf but nothing that cant be easily solved if you corrected you r eating and incorporated weight training can cardio into your routine...

[wolffish]

my usual routine incorporates lots of cardio and resistance training, i am slowly working back up to being normal.. at present i can only do limited stuff (swimming, cycling, LIGHT weights - nothing that involves impact or twisting my spine yet!) so should i just be doing what i can and getting back to eating normally or should i diet?

my weight hasn't changed much since the injury.. just my fat / muscle ratio.

007 recons i have 17% bf, and apparently he's the man for that kinda stuff.

[dec11]

u can t isolate your body from gaining fat while u building muscles , or losing fat without losing muscles, aas free

i also disagree

[dec11]

concentrate on losing the bf 1st, you can hit weights at the same time, to aid the process and prep your body for the weights side of things. dont try to perfect each at once, either on its own is a journey in its own right. ive trained dozens of women like this, the committed got their results

[serratus]

concentrate on losing the bf 1st, you can hit weights at the same time, to aid the process and prep your body for the weights side of things. dont try to perfect each at once, either on its own is a journey in its own right. ive trained dozens of women like this, the committed got their results

if u wana build muscle u need 2 eat agree? weight lift u burn sugar not fat,and 2 burn fat u need cardio and low carb diet agree? so u can t build so much muscle cuz your carb r low ,and the opposite

[Times Roman]

Not a female, but I was in a similar situation a few years ago... compounded by two things... age and back/knees. I was overweight, but wanted to get back into it. when i'm heavy, my back/knees hurt. So before i could do anything, the weight had to come off. I focused on diet only for 6 months. I added cardio and stomach exercised for another 6 months. Finally, when I was ready, and after 1 year, I started with the heavy weight. I agree with dec11, that you should focus on lose weight first. You may or are probably young, so no need for the going as slow as I did. (Plus when you are older, you have to consider tendons and ligaments.... they take forever to strengthen up!). I would write down a target weight for you. Diet and cardio until you hit that weight. If you want to do some weights during that time, that's cool. But wait until you hit your target weight before the heavy weights becomes a focus. One thing at a time is what I always say!

[Times Roman]

u can t isolate your body from gaining fat while u building muscles , or losing fat without losing muscles, aas free

yeah, not sure about this as the statement is a little confusing. All I know is that you can gain BOTH muscle and fat at the same time. You can also lose both muscle and fat at the same time. With or without aas. Aas has nothing to do with this.

...you can also gain muscle and lose fat
...you can also lose muscle and gain fat

it's really up to you what you make your body do. you are the pilot and your body will go where you point it.

[wolffish]

thanks for advice.. serious dieting n cardio first.

[NVR2BIG1]

Both. 1 lb of muscle burns an extra 50 calories/day at rest since muscle is a fat metabolizer, so thats 3500 calories/wk right? I used to tell all of my clients this, use the cardio to keep your metabolism hungry (3x/wk 30 min/session max) but ultimately let the diet and weight training bring you in. Too many people get cardio crazy and actually end up doing the opposite of what they're trying to do.

[oscarjones]

You know working out with weights can be as beneficial as doing cardio when it comes to losing bf. Your carrying a little bf but nothing that cant be easily solved if you corrected you r eating and incorporated weight training can cardio into your routine...

I agree. Start eating frequently coupled with resistance training and I bet you could eat over maintenance and still lose fat while building muscle. Eat clean!

[MrMent1on]

yeah, not sure about this as the statement is a little confusing. All I know is that you can gain BOTH muscle and fat at the same time. You can also lose both muscle and fat at the same time. With or without aas. Aas has nothing to do with this.

...you can also gain muscle and lose fat
...you can also lose muscle and gain fat

it's really up to you what you make your body do. you are the pilot and your body will go where you point it.

Please tell me how is this possible. to lose fat you have to deficit your caloric intake from your caloric need. so tell me how is a person who need 2000 calories to maintain his current body weight is going to grow muscles with any assistance.
Then when your finish with that, explain to me how am I going to eat 4,000 calories to gain muscles for my 2000 caloric maintenane body and lose fat. i'll be waiting.

[oscarjones]

Please tell me how is this possible. to lose fat you have to deficit your caloric intake from your caloric need. so tell me how is a person who need 2000 calories to maintain his current body weight is going to grow muscles with any assistance.
Then when your finish with that, explain to me how am I going to eat 4,000 calories to gain muscles for my 2000 caloric maintenane body and lose fat. i'll be waiting.

Muscle growth!

[MrMent1on]

Muscle growth!

Nutrition is what grows muscles bro. undernutrition yourself and see if you muscles growth.

[BJJ]

Please tell me how is this possible. to lose fat you have to deficit your caloric intake from your caloric need. so tell me how is a person who need 2000 calories to maintain his current body weight is going to grow muscles with any assistance.
Then when your finish with that, explain to me how am I going to eat 4,000 calories to gain muscles for my 2000 caloric maintenane body and lose fat. i'll be waiting.

not necessarily.

[MrMent1on]

not necessarily.

Oh or do a shit load of cardio.