If you could do your first cycle over?

**Buildingmuscle** · 07-19-2010, 01:15 PM

If you could do your first cycle over what would you do different? What kind of cycle would you run?
Reason I'm asking is I got a good friend about to do his first cycle and I told him let me ask you all on here what you would do different. I know I would change my first cycle and some others to. Any way my friend is

28
training for past two yrs
bf good guess 10%
clean diet
has done some pro hormones not much
and has never cycled this will be his first

what would you guys recommend. I told him he would notice alot on his first cycle as long as his diet is in check and he trains hard and gets good rest.

What are your thoughts.

**Buildingmuscle** · 07-19-2010, 01:17 PM

Sorry using an I phone after I type in so much info it won't let me review what I've written. Down side of phones I guess.

He's 5'9"
200lbs

**cobra305** · 07-19-2010, 01:18 PM

I would not change anything and run the same simple cycle of test e for 12 weeks, it yielded great results.

**Buildingmuscle** · 07-19-2010, 01:47 PM

:chairsho

Originally Posted by cobra305

I would not change anything and run the same simple cycle of test e for 12 weeks, it yielded great results.

thanks cobra.

**Knockout_Power** · 07-19-2010, 02:47 PM

made the mistake of trying T400... OUCH!!!! switched to cyp after 2 injects.

**JBarron** · 07-19-2010, 02:50 PM

I ran 12 weeks of Test-Prop eod for my first cycle. Things I would change, I would add in sterile grapeseed oil to the whole cycle. Besides that nothing, it was a great cycle got me very comfortable with injections, gained 10-11lbs dropped bodyfat from 10-8% while on a 4,500-5,000 caloric diet. Which is alot of cals for a guy 6'0 178

**Buildingmuscle** · 07-19-2010, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by JBarron

I ran 12 weeks of Test-Prop eod for my first cycle. Things I would change, I would add in sterile grapeseed oil to the whole cycle. Besides that nothing, it was a great cycle got me very comfortable with injections, gained 10-11lbs dropped bodyfat 2% while on a 4,500-5,000 caloric diet. Which is alot of cals for a guy 6'0 178

How many mils of prop a week did you run? That's what he said he was gonna run. It's what he said his trainer told him to do.

I told him I'd run test e, deca and kickstart with an oral Thats what'd I do anyway with the experience I've had

**Grid_King1** · 07-19-2010, 03:12 PM

My first cycle was Prop 125mg eod and 50mg d bol ed for 8 weeks. It was a really good cycle for me. I was identical stats wise to your buddy minus the age. And it was a great cycle, I gained about 20lbs and kept 15 of it. So I don't think I would change the cycle so much. I do however I wish that I knew more about what I was taking and why rather than just taking it if that makes any sense.

**Buildingmuscle** · 07-19-2010, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by Grid_King1

My first cycle was Prop 125mg eod and 50mg d bol ed for 8 weeks. It was a really good cycle for me. I was identical stats wise to your buddy minus the age. And it was a great cycle, I gained about 20lbs and kept 15 of it. So I don't think I would change the cycle so much. I do however I wish that I knew more about what I was taking and why rather than just taking it if that makes any sense.

That's makes perfect sense. Can't be to educated on things

thanks for the info.

**Neevor** · 07-19-2010, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by Buildingmuscle

I told him I'd run test e, deca and kickstart with an oral Thats what'd I do anyway with the experience I've had

Ummm... 500mg of Enth a week for 12 weeks should be good. I would not have him do more than one component. Deca is no joke when it comes to side effects and he better get a good PCT down before he runs it IMHO.

**baseline_9** · 07-19-2010, 03:42 PM

I ran 250mg test enth for 10 weeks, gains were good and strength was up.

However i was doing what i thort of as the sensible thing, i had no sides what so ever, for my next cycle i will be running test prop at 500-600mg per week shot EODfor 8 weeks, with HCG shot eod (from week 4),

One thing i should have done is get my bloodwork done, i now have an appointment this wednesday to get it done, will b starting cycle in september

**Buildingmuscle** · 07-19-2010, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by Neevor

Ummm... 500mg of Enth a week for 12 weeks should be good. I would not have him do more than one component. Deca is no joke when it comes to side effects and he better get a good PCT down before he runs it IMHO.

ok sounds good. Reason I say deca . I didn't start cycling until I was around 33 sure made my joints feel good

**JBarron** · 07-19-2010, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by Buildingmuscle

How many mils of prop a week did you run? That's what he said he was gonna run. It's what he said his trainer told him to do.

I told him I'd run test e, deca and kickstart with an oral Thats what'd I do anyway with the experience I've had

150mg eod, damn I want a trainer that suggests what aas to run lol