Busted please help friend in trouble legal question

[flex25j]

a very good friend of mine got approached by the police they had a controlled buy of 1 10cc bottle of test from oct of 2008 they said cooperate or go to jail he came to me today to ask what to do. i think there is a statue of limitations of 2 years wich is almost up but not sure and i do not know if its a felony or misdemeanor in my state. could someone please tell me if there is a statue of limitations the state is Pennsylvania. or what he is facing

[Noles12]

a very good friend of mine got approached by the police they had a controlled buy of 1 10cc bottle of test from oct of 2008 they said cooperate or go to jail he came to me today to ask what to do. i think there is a statue of limitations of 2 years wich is almost up but not sure and i do not know if its a felony or misdemeanor in my state. could someone please tell me if there is a statue of limitations the state is Pennsylvania. or what he is facing

So they preformed a ontrolled buy in October 2008 yet let him leave and are coming back 2 years later to arrest him?

Something isnt adding up. A controlled buy is used to arrest him on the spot. Not say ok thanks then let him do his own thing for 2 years

[gymfu]

uh... yea that makes no since.

[flex25j]

no he has been under investigation for other things the whole time they just could never get him on it the pa attorney general does this alot up here trying to build a big case from something small one of our good friends went down a month ago and ran because they wanted him to set my boy up on some serious narcotics so does that make more sense why they did not do anything sooner but once he knew he was hot he closed down shop so they came to him on this little shit.

[flex25j]

they know he knows big time people they said he will walk clean if he works but he thinks it does not carry anytime and the statue of limitations should be up so he is playing along to get more time telling them he will think about it. he contacted a lawyer today and he is looking into it i was just trying to help to see what i could find out from this forum.

[Noles12]

no he has been under investigation for other things the whole time they just could never get him on it the pa attorney general does this alot up here trying to build a big case from something small one of our good friends went down a month ago and ran because they wanted him to set my boy up on some serious narcotics so does that make more sense why they did not do anything sooner but once he knew he was hot he closed down shop so they came to him on this little shit.

That still doesnt explain a controlled buy with no arrest 2 years ago. Yet they are threatening to bring it back up to get him to snitch?

Im lost with this. I dont understand what is going on at all

[songdog]

sounds like a small town

[flex25j]

because they were trying to get him on something big so if they would of arrested then it would of blown any chance they had. so they gambled and almost caught him if his boy would of snitched on him but he gave my friend heads up and left town he is on the run now and saved my boy so there pissed cause they wasted all this time and came up short

[Noles12]

because they were trying to get him on something big so if they would of arrested then it would of blown any chance they had. so they gambled and almost caught him if his boy would of snitched on him but he gave my friend heads up and left town he is on the run now and saved my boy so there pissed cause they wasted all this time and came up short

Well im not sure how much they will have on him now. One bottle of test isnt much. And it has been two years with no other evidence of him doing wrong. Sounds like the investigators are a bunch of idiots

[flex25j]

yeah i said the same thing ill find out what his lawyer said thats why its taking him some time because he has to research it he never had a juice case and every state is different and there is alot of gray area he said. if it was federal they have a set law in place, but its state

[Epic Ed]

DO NOT TALK TO THE POLICE. Period. If you are under investigation the last thing you want to do is utter one word to the cops who are investigating. Even providing info that seems innocuous can turn into a problem and come back to bite you in the ass. Get this phrase down cold:

"I have nothing to hide and plan to cooperate fully, but I need to talk to my attorney about how to proceed."

And then shut yer pie hole. This video is geared a bit more toward how to handle interactions with the police after a defensive shooting, but pertains equally to any interaction with the cops if your are the subject of investigation. It is long, but I promise you it is WELL worth the time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

[EZ E]

Don't talk to the cops! Only the DA can cut a deal, not the cops. Get an attorney and have them work out a deal if that is what your friend decides to do.

[darkcrayz]

DO NOT TALK TO THE POLICE. Period. If you are under investigation the last thing you want to do is utter one word to the cops who are investigating. Even providing info that seems innocuous can turn into a problem and come back to bite you in the ass. Get this phrase down cold:

"I have nothing to hide and plan to cooperate fully, but I need to talk to my attorney about how to proceed."

And then shut yer pie hole. This video is geared a bit more toward how to handle interactions with the police after a defensive shooting, but pertains equally to any interaction with the cops if your are the subject of investigation. It is long, but I promise you it is WELL worth the time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

that was a really good watch. thanks for posting it.

[sixey]

woah woah woah, so about this "controlled buy" buisness, never heard of it???!!

...lets say i was to order just a small amount of an oral and a few ancillaries and they were being shipped to me, do you think this is something i should worry about??

[poppz]

dont worry,felony or misdermeanor,thatsno problem,,if he snitches ,he'll probally make the case bigger than it is ,and get himself in more sh!t..

[Nicotine]

sounds like you need better quality friends.

[Zedik]

DO NOT TALK TO THE POLICE. Period. If you are under investigation the last thing you want to do is utter one word to the cops who are investigating. Even providing info that seems innocuous can turn into a problem and come back to bite you in the ass. Get this phrase down cold:

"I have nothing to hide and plan to cooperate fully, but I need to talk to my attorney about how to proceed."

And then shut yer pie hole. This video is geared a bit more toward how to handle interactions with the police after a defensive shooting, but pertains equally to any interaction with the cops if your are the subject of investigation. It is long, but I promise you it is WELL worth the time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

AMEN to that brother!!!!!

No matter what never under any circumstance talk to the police. I got busted for growing pot when i was in college some 12 years ago. The cops came to my door and surprised the shit out of me, I looked scared and guilty as hell but I told them to go away if they didn't have a warrant. They got me anyway cuz they squeezed my roomate before I could get everything out.

Tell your friend to lay out the dough for a really good attorney if anything and if you are a close associate of your friend just kinda keep an eye out and be extra tight about your business.

that video is a great watch

[BigMyke]

DO NOT TALK TO THE POLICE. Period. If you are under investigation the last thing you want to do is utter one word to the cops who are investigating. Even providing info that seems innocuous can turn into a problem and come back to bite you in the ass. Get this phrase down cold:

"I have nothing to hide and plan to cooperate fully, but I need to talk to my attorney about how to proceed."

And then shut yer pie hole. This video is geared a bit more toward how to handle interactions with the police after a defensive shooting, but pertains equally to any interaction with the cops if your are the subject of investigation. It is long, but I promise you it is WELL worth the time:two

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

I agree totally,two words my friend "lawyer-up!"

[c-Z]

nice youtube video....

What proof do they have? If they wanted to lock him up they would have..... Not have threatened him.....

I always look at it as. If they have me one something they will arrest me.

Ever see the videos where its a buddy. Say mike and joe. And they bring you in to talk. And the cops tell joe that mike snitched and if joe cooperates charges will be less. Well.. BS everytime.. They tried it with me and a buddy. A vehicle was damaged greatly. It was an old boss of ours so we both got called in. But i walked out a free man even though my buddy talked. yet we both walked out.....

I think i confused myself.. U get my point.

[40plusnewbie]

woah woah woah, so about this "controlled buy" buisness, never heard of it???!!

...lets say i was to order just a small amount of an oral and a few ancillaries and they were being shipped to me, do you think this is something i should worry about??

That wouldn't fall under a 'controlled buy', it potentially, but extremely unlikely (at least if you live in the usa) could result in a 'controlled delivery'. I would not worry about this at all if you are only ordering a small ammt for personal use. What they do, if opened and discovered by customs, is usually send you a letter saying they intercepted a controlled substance (stating what specifically) and give you a chance to respond on the paperwork (I think either check 'throw it away' or 'you want to pick it up because you have a dea license to import controlled substances lol).

You DO NOT want to respond to such a letter in any way, that could actually potentially give them evidence you expected such a delivery. Maybe you neighbor really ordered the stuff going to your house and plans to ask you for the package after it arrives, who knows but you don't break no laws so don't fill out that paper if you get it.

I, personally, have never heard of a controlled delivery for a small personal use ammt of steroids (or sched I or II drugs if it is a small ammt they intercept for that matter). I think they have to do a cost/benefit analysis as to where to spend resources on controlled deliveries, they need a small team in place to arrest the person and to take extra care in shipping it/delivering it. They do controlled deliveries on dealers when they intercept large ammt's of stuff. Customs probably grabs 1,000 packs of controlled substances a day, who knows, maybe 10,000. In any case they can't have a million cops going door to door every day so they save controlled deliveries for the big fish, not little plankton like your order.

[THORSZ]

Doesn't add up. I would doubt cops would even have proof. They loose sh*t all the time and it's been two years.

[BRILL]

Ok first of all controlled buys are not used to make an arrest on the spot. Some controlled buys lead into years of investigations. It could very well be an investigation that went bad because their snitch backed out after first buy or anything else happened. Get a lawyer to file you a motion to discover and you will find out fast. I would not say a word to the cops for now. You are not being incooperative by not talking to them, you are excersising your rights as an american. Good Luck

[flex25j]

hey i am here now sorry been working all day. my friend talked to a buddy who is a da and he said statue of limitations is 2 years. it happened oct 5th 2008 so he said have his lawyer hold things off as long as possible and tell them he wants to help but needs time to find people because after that date its too late . the guy who set him up was already arrested for home mortgage scam but was a big juice head. so he thought by setting people up on whatever he could would reduce his sentence and he still got 4 years. and thats what happened they started a big investigation on my friend that went bad so they figured try to scare him on what they have. and his da friend said they never had a case like that since he was practicing law in the state of pa there is no delivery only possession law or if there is a delivery it carry's the same thing as possession it a misdemeanor. only federal law could of really screwed him. but most states have not adopted that law. and it only being 1 bottle of test it was not a mass amount so its not trafficking. it was a one time thing he was good friends with the guy and just hooked him up with 1 bottle at cost not trying to profit. so if he can hold them off from charging until oct 5th he can laugh in there face.

[flex25j]

and it was a good buy the guy wore a wire and video on him his lawyer saw the tape. it was the Pennsylvania attorney general who did this not local police.

[Noles12]

It makes more sense now but have you made sure your buddy is ok with you posting all of this. I mean you are saying everything he has done and really are exposing him

[flex25j]

he does not know about this forum but i told him i was going to ask some people through a forum as long as names are not disclosed he is fine. I thought it would be good info just so people realize how something like that can happen to anyone. so if you guys every have a friend who is in trouble no matter what its for just be careful. I mean think about this guy who did this to my friend was in trouble for home mortgage fraud nothing at all to do with juice or drugs and i knew this guy well too. the funny thing is i remember the time this took place and he did ask me but i was out and been off for 6 months or i could of been a victim too. so i hope this is good info for everyone. I will let you know at a later time what the outcome of this was.