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    Please help me with my first cycle

    Ok guys, I was going to do winny but decided not to on a count of its very expensive.

    Do you think I should do T-bol

    Whats a good cycle for T-Bol at 5'9'' 200 lbs 26 years old.12-14 BF% I got a instrument to measure it instead of the online test bc it said I was like 25% BF.

    Clomid for PCT?

    (First cycle btw) and yes Iv researched ALOT..oh yea and Iv been lifting 1 hour a day for the past 10 years..Cardio probably 2-3 times a week for 30 min a day plus the hour for lifting

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    Test 10-12 weeks.
    Tbol as kick start or finisher.
    Clomid/Nolva or Torem/Nolva when half life is up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asura View Post
    Ok guys, I was going to do winny but decided not to on a count of its very expensive.

    Do you think I should do T-bol

    Whats a good cycle for T-Bol at 5'9'' 200 lbs 26 years old.12-14 BF% I got a instrument to measure it instead of the online test bc it said I was like 25% BF.

    Clomid for PCT?

    (First cycle btw) and yes Iv researched ALOT..oh yea and Iv been lifting 1 hour a day for the past 10 years..Cardio probably 2-3 times a week for 30 min a day plus the hour for lifting
    so after everything I tried to teach you, the only reason you chose not to do the winny only cycle is the price? and you've researched ALOT but can't propose a cycle including dosages? considering I tried to help you in this thread and you responded by accusing me of being power happy and said there is something wrong with me, I'm going to leave this for the other guys.

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=438605

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    ^^^Agreed with Big. If you have done as much 'research' as you have proclaimed, you should know that your proposed cycles are not smart.

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    Thanks for the link B.

    If you were about to run Winstrol only 2 days ago, you haven't come close to fulfilling enough research on your own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawaiianPride. View Post
    Thanks for the link B.

    If you were about to run Winstrol only 2 days ago, you haven't come close to fulfilling enough research on your own.
    7 hours ago it was dbol only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawaiianPride. View Post
    Test 10-12 weeks.
    Tbol as kick start or finisher.
    Clomid/Nolva or Torem/Nolva when half life is up.
    Iv done research on the main ones including T-Bol...I was going to do winstrol only bc I did not want to gain much and T-Bol you gain about 8 lbs per month.Anyways,thanks for post. So, how much Clomid/Nolva after the 8 hour half life?

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    I've used tbol at 50mg/day for 5 weeks with good results. propose a pct and we'll help you tweak it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    I've used tbol at 50mg/day for 5 weeks with good results. propose a pct and we'll help you tweak it.
    Hi Big, You did tbol only? The guy above told me to use it as a kickstarter? But I was thinking of doing 50mg/day of only tbol for 5 weeks bc I heard after 5 you dont see much gains.

    Than after the 5 weeks of tbol only wait 2 weeks than run nolvadex 100mg/day for 4 weeks?

    And dont mix with it clomid bc it could act as a anti somehow?
    Last edited by Asura; 07-22-2010 at 11:16 PM.

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    I've done tbol only and had great strength gains. Most of us here like test only for a first cycle. Nolva would be ok for pct following tbol if you go that route, but you would not (ever) want to run 100mg/day nolva.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    I've done tbol only and had great strength gains. Most of us here like test only for a first cycle. Nolva would be ok for pct following tbol if you go that route, but you would not (ever) want to run 100mg/day nolva.
    Thanks for answering back Big. OH!!!!! I think I meant 20mg a day? or is 40 better? also did you wait 2 weeks after last injection than start it? And you did not take clomid, right? Also during those 2 weeks after last injection how did you feel? Recommend anything to take during that or just tough it out those 2 weeks until you take nolva. And I rather just run tbol instead of test. Even know this is my first cycle, any thoughts on that? and sincerely thanks for helping me out.

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    the tbol I had was oral, as most is. pct would start 2 days after last dose, for the nolva I'd go
    40/20/20/20

    pct start times is based on the half-life and active life of the compounds, it varies depending on what you're using.

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    Ok thanks,Ill ask my guy for oral and after 2 days of last dose Ill do 1 week 40 nolva mg than next 3 weeks 20, also you did not use any clomid and nolva alone will be enough to get natural testosterone back to par? From nolva did you feel sudden "heat attacks" Regardless Im doing it anyway I was just wondering how severe they were bc people reported they were BAD.Thanks for help,for real.

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