steroid profiles - simplified?

[danimal79]

can anyone recommend some "easier/lighter" reading material regarding steroid profiles? i tried to scan the stickies, but not to sound ungreatful, they're hard for the average person to comprehend. i'd like to find some material that has a list of steroid profiles, with a brief description of what it is/does, so that i can pick which ones to research further. any leads?

[G4R]

A easier to understand version of the steroid profile forum on here?

[danimal79]

A easier to understand version of the steroid profile forum on here?

well that would be great, but either way i just need a reference tool. i'm familiar with the basics, but don't know dick about the rest. i'm not scared of a little reading, but honestly, when i tried reading through the steroid profiles, i still didn't know what the drug did and i was 3 paragraphs in lol. i just need a quick reference guide so that i can determine the drugs that fit my needs, and spend the time researching them alone.

[wormwood]

Not to be an ass but I don't see what the problem is. Just keep reading and learning. I'm not sure how the profiles could be any more basic unless they said something like, "Testosterone Enthanate (given a proper diet and training regimine) will help you gain muscle and strength."

[danimal79]

the "problem" is that it's a lot of reading before getting to understand what it is i'm even reading about. for example, i'm bulking right now. i don't want to get 3 paragraphs in before realizing i'm reading about something that's better for cutting. ideally, it would be great to know everything about EVERYTHING, but right now i just wanna study what pertains to my current goals. feel me?

[wormwood]

Just do the research. It's not that difficult. You can (for the most part) use any steroid for bulking or cutting. What determines whether or not you are doing a bulking or cutting cycle is your diet and your training. It's a complicated subject...it's not as simple as. "what compounds are used for cutting and which are used for bulking?"

[sprinter911]

Possibly an index at the top of each profile? lol. i see where you're coming from Danimal. An cliff notes type version would be an "easy read." Maybe you should start one?

[crazy_rocks]

read the profiles. if there is a word you dont understand look it up and read the profile again. if there is a specific action being described such as side effect talk look up the phrase decsribing the action (hpta, estogenic, aromatase). you will begin to construct a mental picture of many of these steroids . this site is where i learned most of what i know and had clarified other things i thought i knew.

you can comprehend to it. your just new to it. read reading. you will be ok here. if there is something that still doesnt make sense there are plenty of people here that can help just make sure you have a better understanding first. your questions will be better and you wont wear peoples patience.

[gonzo6183]

If you cant understand what it is that you are reading or if you dont know what steroids you should be researching then id say you are not ready to take anything, take time to learn all aspects of what every it is you are interested in and in time you will get a full understanding for, then look into cycling...

[Igifuno]

Are you familiar with this page bro? Its on the main page of our site? I get the impression you may not have looked at it.. if so, and your confused about other language withint the profiles that you don't understand, you can google or otherwise research those phrases or words to help in your understanding of the overall profile...

Good luck - http://www.steroid.com/drugprof.php

IG

[Bonaparte]

If you can't be bothered to read a few AAS profiles (which is the tip of the research iceberg), you're obviously too lazy (or obtuse) to use AAS. Sorry, but it had to be said. So get reading or just give up now.

BTW, don't worry about all those fancy compounds if you're just starting AAS. Focus on building a safe test-only cycle by reading up on PCT and ancillary drugs.

[Noles12]

Ive just noticed with being on here, in time you learn about compounds you knew nothing about. I read others questions and know a lot about compounds that i have never run just. Other members give experience and doses. I know what i want to run in the future and the doses i want to run them at.

When i want to know more then i read the profile. I mean really a few paragraphs isnt that bad

[danimal79]

some of you guys are hilarious. i wonder if you read everything there was to learn about the automobile industry, before getting your drivers permit. or if you completely researched every corner of the tanning industry before getting your "bronze on". lol...lighten up.

BTW, don't worry about all those fancy compounds if you're just starting AAS. Focus on building a safe test-only cycle by reading up on PCT and ancillary drugs.

this is my 2nd cycle. my first was test/deca , and it was a few years ago. at the time i did A LOT of research about aas, and was an avid poster on the bb.com steroid forum before starting my cycle. but if you don't use it, you lose it. since then i pretty much forgot about 90% of what i "learned" lol. i shit you not. that's why i don't want to get caught up in reading a bunch of crap that i don't care about. we all learn in different ways. i have severe add. the best way for me to learn is to start with the basics. if i get loaded up with a ton of info, i retain hardly any of it. so when i see a ton of info on molecular weights, and protons and neutrons...to be honest, i could give a shit lol. give it to me short, and sweet. WHAT IS IT? after that i can decide whether or not i want to learn about every little detail, or move on and direct my attention to something else. feel me?

[Noles12]

some of you guys are hilarious. i wonder if you read everything there was to learn about the automobile industry, before getting your drivers permit. or if you completely researched every corner of the tanning industry before getting your "bronze on". lol...lighten up.

Well those really arent comparable to something you are injecting in your body and knowing the effects it might have.

But it leads me back to what i said. You dont read up on the automobile because you have witness how it works from others experience. You also have the idea from tanning due to others using it and advice you may get at the desk. Its all about spending time in the subject. If you spend time here reading what we recommend and others experience then you could easily learn about many compounds and their doses.

And by the way if the automobile industry and tanning was condensed into a couple of pages i would read it

[dec11]

Well those really arent comparable to something you are injecting in your body and knowing the effects it might have.

But it leads me back to what i said. You dont read up on the automobile because you have witness how it works from others experience. You also have the idea from tanning due to others using it and advice you may get at the desk. Its all about spending time in the subject. If you spend time here reading what we recommend and others experience then you could easily learn about many compounds and their doses.

And by the way if the automobile industry and tanning was condensed into a couple of pages i would read it

yeah, well said mate. this OP is the dude that can put on 12lbs solid in 8wks 'natural', but cant read simply breakdowns. lmfao

[Big]

I've got to say I'm a bit lost here as well. you want information only related to your second cycle and don't care to read every profile to see what fits your needs. fair enough. there are many, many threads on second cycles, including recommendations from seasoned members as to what a good second cycle would be, and "members results" telling you what people liked or didn't like about their second cycle. personally I would think you could do a quick bit of research on second cycles, then read the profiles on those compounds, and I'm betting you could have done that in less time than you've spent in this thread.

[dsldsl1980]

Maybe this will help. It gave me an idea where to start. Steroid Effectiveness Chart on the main page
http://www.steroid.com/effect.php

[Bonaparte]

some of you guys are hilarious. i wonder if you read everything there was to learn about the automobile industry, before getting your drivers permit. or if you completely researched every corner of the tanning industry before getting your "bronze on". lol...lighten up.

uhhh...well lets see. Before ever trying to drive a car on my own I read the driver's handbook, took a couple written tests, took drivers' ed, drove 30-60 minutes almost every day for a year with a parent, then had to go take a driving test at the DMV in order to get my license to go drive alone. And I still sucked ass for the first couple weeks driving on my own. So yeah, I'd say that that is a hell of a lot more effort than reading up on steroid profiles.
Did you just jump in your first car and take off without any issue or concerns??

[danimal79]

i don't know how everyone's lost lol. it's pretty simple. the steroid profiles are lengthy, and do not get to the point quickly. i was looking for something that does. kinda like how when you go to the bookstore, you read the back of the book jacket before deciding if you want to read the entire book. you don't just pick up a random book and start reading and then get 1/2 way through before realizing it's a "love story" and you were looking for a "mystery". i really don't see how this is so tough to understand or appreciate.

but i'm not gonna beat a dead horse. i appreciate this site, and everyone who's helped me so far. i've spent hours and hours studying this site, and have learned a lot since i've been here. thanks!

p.s.
dec11, i've tried to be nice to you, but you keep provoking me. if you've been training for 17 years, and still haven't figured out how to add 2lbs to your frame in a week, without sticking a needle in your ass, then you're a complete moron who "isn't ready for steroids " either. and the fact that you've got such a hard-on for me, lets me know that you know i'm right, and that you know that other people on here know i'm right about you. hurts don't it?

[dec11]

[QUOTE=danimal79;5283400]i don't know how everyone's lost lol. it's pretty simple. the steroid profiles are lengthy, and do not get to the point quickly. i was looking for something that does. kinda like how when you go to the bookstore, you read the back of the book jacket before deciding if you want to read the entire book. you don't just pick up a random book and start reading and then get 1/2 way through before realizing it's a "love story" and you were looking for a "mystery". i really don't see how this is so tough to understand or appreciate.

but i'm not gonna beat a dead horse. i appreciate this site, and everyone who's helped me so far. i've spent hours and hours studying this site, and have learned a lot since i've been here. thanks!

p.s.
dec11, i've tried to be nice to you, but you keep provoking me. if you've been training for 17 years, and still haven't figured out how to add 2lbs to your frame in a week, without sticking a needle in your ass, then you're a complete moron who "isn't ready for steroids" either. and the fact that you've got such a hard-on for me, lets me know that you know i'm right, and that you know that other people on here know i'm right. hurts don't it?[/QUOTE]

lol, i love it when your masterful, so after top ppl in the game have been quoted as saying a natural athlete is lucky to increase solid muscle mass by 10lbs a year, you still are holding onto this fantasy? you, apparently illiterate, numbnut.

i havent a hard on for you sonny, just tired of ppl like you spreading their bullshit and 'facts'

beginning to see that people dont get on very well with you? speaks volumes in itself big boy

[dec11]

some of you guys are hilarious. i wonder if you read everything there was to learn about the automobile industry, before getting your drivers permit. or if you completely researched every corner of the tanning industry before getting your "bronze on". lol...lighten up.

this is my 2nd cycle. my first was test/deca , and it was a few years ago. at the time i did A LOT of research about aas, and was an avid poster on the bb.com steroid forum before starting my cycle. but if you don't use it, you lose it. since then i pretty much forgot about 90% of what i "learned" lol. i shit you not. that's why i don't want to get caught up in reading a bunch of crap that i don't care about. we all learn in different ways. i have severe add. the best way for me to learn is to start with the basics. if i get loaded up with a ton of info, i retain hardly any of it. so when i see a ton of info on molecular weights, and protons and neutrons...to be honest, i could give a shit lol. give it to me short, and sweet. WHAT IS IT? after that i can decide whether or not i want to learn about every little detail, or move on and direct my attention to something else. feel me?

this little statement kinda says it all about you.

[danimal79]

if you don't know how to quote people properly, you aren't ready for steroids .

[D7M]

last I checked this is still a no flame board...

[dec11]

if you don't know how to quote people properly, you aren't ready for steroids.

[danimal79]

last I checked this is still a no flame board...

this guy has been following me around and flaming me since i got here. i've been civil, but i can only take so much.

this little statement kinda says it all about you.

and the fact that i was willing to go out of my way to prove to you that i'm capable of (and currently doing) everything i claimed, and you just disregarded it, lets me know something about YOU. ie, you're too scared to be proven wrong on an internet forum.

[dec11]

this guy has been following me around and flaming me since i got here. i've been civil, but i can only take so much.

and the fact that i was willing to go out of my way to prove to you that i'm capable of (and currently doing) everything i claimed, and you just disregarded it, lets me know something about YOU. ie, you're too scared to be proven wrong on an internet forum.

rubbish, i pulled you out on a false statement, you flamed along with your little buddy cybercock and then a few days later put a sarcastic comment on a thread i was involved in.
your full of crap, you come on here giving off about the the way the site is laid out when no one else has a problem with it, when people point out the ease of it all you get narky about it. you and your 'natural' plan are devoid of any useful and correct information.

[marcus300]

Come on guys its only the internet, please respect the rules and enjoy the site.

Lets get the thread back on track

[dec11]

Come on guys its only the internet, please respect the rules and enjoy the site.

Lets get the thread back on track

ya, im done mate

[Bertuzzi]

I think this is very simple to answer.

Danimal: I know what you mean, when I arrived here and knew nothing about anything, I was lost. I read the profiles and did not have clue what they were talking about... I do not have any backgroud in any form of Science and do not understand a lot of the chemical side of things and generally only understand the... "What will it do for me" side of things that you are looking for.

I myself am naturally inquisitive, I need to know everything about something I am interested in. I am also a perfectionist and only do things the right way! So naturally what did I do when I wanted to know everything and do my first real cycle to perfection. I started reading every thread about everyting going on in the Q&A and the Members Results and the Diet section.... I became obsessed. I fell in love with the site and the learning I could do.

At first I didn't know a lot of what the people were talking about, but I kept reading and as I read different threads something one guy said in one thread made another thing I read in another thread make sense.... I would ask questions when I was really curious and eventually I could understand what these crazy fukers were talking about.... As I gained knowledge I felt successful... I could now read almost all the steroid profiles and understand everything in them without any problems. I have seen 100 different answers to the same question over and over and over again.... and I don't get sick of it because it is always from a different approach and I learn something new everytime.

You have to spend countless hours to understand this world, even if you have mdeical, bio and chemical background.... you still need to udnerstand the world.

If you truly respect your body you will do what I did. I hope I have helped and I hope this time I have spent writing this will not be wasted and someone can learn from it.

This community and world is wonderful.... spend sometime getting to know us and it and then stay awhile... you'll be glad you did.

[marcus300]

I think this is very simple to answer.

Danimal: I know what you mean, when I arrived here and knew nothing about anything, I was lost. I read the profiles and did not have clue what they were talking about... I do not have any backgroud in any form of Science and do not understand a lot of the chemical side of things and generally only understand the... "What will it do for me" side of things that you are looking for.

I myself am naturally inquisitive, I need to know everything about something I am interested in. I am also a perfectionist and only do things the right way! So naturally what did I do when I wanted to know everything and do my first real cycle to perfection. I started reading every thread about everyting going on in the Q&A and the Members Results and the Diet section.... I became obsessed. I fell in love with the site and the learning I could do.

At first I didn't know a lot of what the people were talking about, but I kept reading and as I read different threads something one guy said in one thread made another thing I read in another thread make sense.... I would ask questions when I was really curious and eventually I could understand what these crazy fukers were talking about.... As I gained knowledge I felt successful... I could now read almost all the steroid profiles and understand everything in them without any problems. I have seen 100 different answers to the same question over and over and over again.... and I don't get sick of it because it is always from a different approach and I learn something new everytime.

You have to spend countless hours to understand this world, even if you have mdeical, bio and chemical background.... you still need to udnerstand the world.

If you truly respect your body you will do what I did. I hope I have helped and I hope this time I have spent writing this will not be wasted and someone can learn from it.

This community and world is wonderful.... spend sometime getting to know us and it and then stay awhile... you'll be glad you did.

Well done, excellent post

[danimal79]

yea great post, bertuzzi. thanks playboy!

rubbish, i pulled you out on a false statement, you flamed along with your little buddy cybercock and then a few days later put a sarcastic comment on a thread i was involved in.
your full of crap, you come on here giving off about the the way the site is laid out when no one else has a problem with it, when people point out the ease of it all you get narky about it. you and your 'natural' plan are devoid of any useful and correct information.

ya know...people like you, are what's wrong with people like you. and it's "you're" not "your", as in: "you're delusional"

[dec11]

yea great post, bertuzzi. thanks playboy!

ya know...people like you, are what's wrong with people like you. and it's "you're" not "your", as in: "you're delusional"

yeah its quicker to type you twat

[Noles12]

can anyone recommend some "easier/lighter" reading material regarding steroid profiles? i tried to scan the stickies, but not to sound ungreatful, they're hard for the average person to comprehend. i'd like to find some material that has a list of steroid profiles, with a brief description of what it is/does, so that i can pick which ones to research further. any leads?

it's "ungrateful" not "ungreatful", as in: "you are ungrateful for the suggestions that have been posted here"

[danimal79]

yeah its quicker to type

irony: it's what's for dinner.

[danimal79]

it's "ungrateful" not "ungreatful", as in: "you are ungrateful for the suggestions that have been posted here"

lol touche. and am i REALLY coming off UNGRATEFUL? i mean...i think my suggestions and points are valid. especially after what bertuzzi wrote. how many more people would be using steroids CORRECTLY if it was made easier to understand in places like these? and it CAN be made easier to understand. things CAN be improved on. not everything is "perfect" (hence the reason we're here and building our bodies in the first place). but it appears i've gotten my answer.

QUESTION: can anyone recommend some "easier/lighter" reading material regarding steroid profiles?

ANSWER: no

[Noles12]

just had to throw that one out there lol. my grammar isn't usually the greatest on here

[dec11]

it's "ungrateful" not "ungreatful", as in: "you are ungrateful for the suggestions that have been posted here"

lol, well spotted. classic

[danimal79]

lol, well spotted. classic

you know what else was classic? when you posted that you were training for 17 years. that was just GRATE

[Bertuzzi]

I think we need to let this go.... we've taken it to a stupid and immature level here.... and over what?

Take it to PM if you guys feel the need to have a pissing contest