nolva start to finish?

[jojomcgo]

Whats up every one i've read a few things from people suggesting nolva at the start of cycle all the way through ?? any one done this.. i have always thought it was not a good idea to take nolva untill your done and starting your pct (or are showing bad sides).. but then again i am more estro side prone so any thoughts, i seen this on this forum and others where people advice is to run it from start to finish ..

[D7M]

I'd prefer an AI on cycle for estrogen control.

But Nolva will work as well.

Alot of peeps will tell you that nolva will lower your IGF levels, which is true,

but I've ran nolva throughout cycles and never experienced a reduction in gains because of it.

[jojomcgo]

yea i was wondering about it keeping me from making more gains too,thnx for the feed back.

[supersetman]

I would also prefer and ai like exemestane while on cycle and save the nolva for pct.

[TKO Performance]

Nolva may limit your potential for maximum gains, but it may also help keep you from getting hurt. One of the benefits of using Nolva while on a cycle is that it will help protect your tendons and connective tissue. Of course this depends on what you're running too. If you're using Deca, EQ, or Anavar I wouldn't worry about it, because those all have a positive affect on collagen synthesis, which will keep your joints healthy and actually help repair minor damage. Test, though not exactly the same as the others, can also have a positive affect on tissue repair. The key is to increase or not reduce estrogen. Nolva will actively increase it. Deca, EQ, and Anavar will not reduce it. Test aromatizes to it. All have the same affect for different reasons.

However, if you're running Winny, D-bol, or anything DHT derrived then I might consider running the Nolva the entire time. Your joints will thank you.

[jojomcgo]

yea i know for dbol i would run it i found out about the joint pain the hard way the first time..

[NMacFar]

I've done it throughout a cycle and i had no problems gaining.

[PK-V]

I'd prefer an AI on cycle for estrogen control.

But Nolva will work as well.

Alot of peeps will tell you that nolva will lower your IGF levels, which is true,

but I've ran nolva throughout cycles and never experienced a reduction in gains because of it.

has there been any studies to show this

I've been hearing that a lot of these studies were on people on tam for 2+ years

not 4-8 weeks but maybe it is still enough to impact IGF levels

is it suppression or downregulation or how does it work?

so the tam must be working in different wavelengths as the test on the other side raising the IGF levels is not sufficient, they both work effecting IGF levels differently?

[PK-V]

I've done it throughout a cycle and i had no problems gaining.

but to be fare you wouldn't have known how much more you might have gained if you didn't use it on cycle as you did use it



now my .02c on the subject is

use the nolva on cycle

why?

it's not a suicide inhibitor but a binder so you still have enough estrogen floating around to keep you in some sort of homeostasis

it's not shit on the cardio vascular system

improves HDL/LDL

BUT it's

subject to it's IGF negatives

Use an AI if you can't help it with nolva or tweaking dosages

[charliemurphy229]

I would use an ai like exemestane or adex while on cycle, save nolva for your pct.

[anadroljack]

remember estrogen is important only use anti aromatise if you need it.

[TKO Performance]

That's true. It's the lack of estrogen that can be making you feel banged up with sore joints, ect. Estrogen moderates the anti-inflamatory response, so without it you get inflamation and the accompanying pain.

[Ashop]

Whats up every one i've read a few things from people suggesting nolva at the start of cycle all the way through ?? any one done this.. i have always thought it was not a good idea to take nolva untill your done and starting your pct (or are showing bad sides).. but then again i am more estro side prone so any thoughts, i seen this on this forum and others where people advice is to run it from start to finish ..

These days I would suggest running a small dosage AI during your entire cycle.
Save the NOLVA for PCT.

[livingwithdoms]

I like using a little exmestane during cycle my favorite ai.