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    33 and new to it all

    Hi Guys,

    I am looking for some advice, I am 33 years old and have never taken any form of steroid previously. I am going to start a course soon from what I understand propionate , finasteride, winstrol and masterone sounds like a good combination, is their an alternative to masterone as this sounds very expensive.

    I have gained 3 stone in weight since last year I have not trained for a year I used to train in BJJ & Muay Thai, however since a knee injury and travelling abroad alot I just stopped training. I am now looking to train and do a course for the next 12 weeks. I need to cut weight (which I will do through diet, cardio and not drinking) but I also want to get considerable gains in muscle, can anybody advise on cycles? Thank you

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    Welcome.

    Begin your research starting with the educational threads. Learn what compounds are suited for beginners.

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    Welcome to the board. Agree with Hawaiian's post. You should definitely start with the educational threads before starting any cycle. Test should be the base of any cycle and IMO run alone for your first cycle. Get crackin on the research. Knowledge is power.

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    A little piece of advice: don't just throw together a bunch of compounds that sound good for your first cycle.
    And if you're worried about your hair, (which I assume you are, because of the Finasteride) Winstrol and Masteron are 2 of the worst compounds in this respect, along with Tren .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    A little piece of advice: don't just throw together a bunch of compounds that sound good for your first cycle.
    And if you're worried about your hair, (which I assume you are, because of the Finasteride) Winstrol and Masteron are 2 of the worst compounds in this respect, along with Tren.
    x 2! If it's your first cycle stick to test e - you can make some great gains on that compound - 500mg's a week x 12 weeks will suffice. This is what I did for my first cycle and most experienced members would recommend the same...presuming your diet etc is in check

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    thanks for all the replies so far, i really appreciate it. I have read the anabolic research book by Brian Clapp and that is what made me think of the course I suggested, however i understand that test e is the most widely used however has some nasty side effects (please advise otherwise) also at the age im at im not getting more hair growing plus have the bitch tits already albeit they will go once i start hitting it hard. can you ofer any advice with regards to what works for hair loss, achne or other side effects?

    THANK YOU all

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    also do i stack something else alongside the test e?

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    thank you I really apprecaite your help, also your one big dude. Congratulations on putting in so much hard work

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    Quote Originally Posted by barieh View Post
    thanks for all the replies so far, i really appreciate it. I have read the anabolic research book by Brian Clapp and that is what made me think of the course I suggested, however i understand that test e is the most widely used however has some nasty side effects (please advise otherwise) also at the age im at im not getting more hair growing plus have the bitch tits already albeit they will go once i start hitting it hard. can you ofer any advice with regards to what works for hair loss, achne or other side effects?

    THANK YOU all
    Stick one 1 compound for your first cycle. I have a lot of books regarding Anabolics as well and plenty of their suggestions aren't very good. If anything may go wrong during the cycle, you have only 1 compound to blame. Tossing in 3 different Steroids and you'll never know the culprit.

    Are you prone to Acne? Test and other certain compounds may induce more while "on". A script called Accutane works but comes at a price since it's a very harsh medication, which in turn may lead to other side effects in some users.

    As far as hair loss, look into Propecia, DHT blocker/hair loss shampoo with the DHT blocking properties, nizoral, are good products.

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    Oker, please confirm by test e you mean testosterone enanthate ? Thanks

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    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barieh View Post
    Oker, please confirm by test e you mean testosterone enanthate? Thanks
    As hawaiian pride said - what are your stats? you mentioned you already had bitch tits? What is your body fat %? You really shouldn't start taking any gear if overweight and most of the more advanced members would agree. You could do yourself more harm than good

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    Quote Originally Posted by barieh View Post
    also do i stack something else alongside the test e?
    As I said test e will sufice...so no don't stack anything with the first test cycle

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