My first cycle - Should i?

[Babel26]

Hey.

I've been thinking for a while now about trying a cycle of AAS or even if I should try it. I'm 27 years old and I've been lifting weights for about 4 years naturally. I haven't done that much cardio workouts, but I have just started doing 30min, 3 times a week on a treadmill.

What I want to know is what I should use for my first cycle. There is so many different types of AAS to choose from and It's all very confusing.

My height is 5'5 and my weight is 160 pounds. Bodyfat around 20-22%.

[MACHINE5150]

first cycle is usually 500mg of Test Enthenate for ten weeks.. followed up by some post cycle therapy like clomid and nolvadex.. the guys here will say that you are a bit high on the BF.. so i would recomend cutting that down to 15% before you try to beef up..

[Asura]

Hey.

I've been thinking for a while now about trying a cycle of AAS or even if I should try it. I'm 27 years old and I've been lifting weights for about 4 years naturally. I haven't done that much cardio workouts, but I have just started doing 30min, 3 times a week on a treadmill.

What I want to know is what I should use for my first cycle. There is so many different types of AAS to choose from and It's all very confusing.

My height is 5'5 and my weight is 160 pounds. Bodyfat around 20-22%.

The vets will tell you to cut down bf. Id say that to, go to diet section but if your stubborn..id do test 12 weeks and kick start with d bol 4 weeks..i never did that but its a popular cycle.

[vegasbound]

Yep get the body fat down, less chance of some sides, and you will feel and look better IMO. Your gonna put on some body fat when your on so start a little leaner.

[HawaiianPride.]

Hey.

I've been thinking for a while now about trying a cycle of AAS or even if I should try it. I'm 27 years old and I've been lifting weights for about 4 years naturally. I haven't done that much cardio workouts, but I have just started doing 30min, 3 times a week on a treadmill.

What I want to know is what I should use for my first cycle. There is so many different types of AAS to choose from and It's all very confusing.

My height is 5'5 and my weight is 160 pounds. Bodyfat around 20-22%.

How did you calculate your BF?

[scotty51312]

At 5'6 160 and 22% body fat? that doesn't seem quite right to me. Especially for someone training for 4 years. But since you're curious about AAS the best way to answer it is no, you shouldn't run anything at that bodyfat % if its accurate. Post your diet on here and let the vets take a look at it. You'd be amazed what these guys can tell you about your intake. The old expression of input=output holds true with diets.

[Babel26]

How did you calculate your BF?

I used a online calculator. measuring waist, hips, neck etc. I'm not sure how accurate they are.

At 5'6 160 and 22% body fat? that doesn't seem quite right to me. Especially for someone training for 4 years. But since you're curious about AAS the best way to answer it is no, you shouldn't run anything at that bodyfat % if its accurate. Post your diet on here and let the vets take a look at it. You'd be amazed what these guys can tell you about your intake. The old expression of input=output holds true with diets.

I haven't been working out 4 years non-stop. For the first 2 years I worked out 4-5 days a week almost religiously, but at around fall 2008 I've been on and off. I haven't had any specific diet plans, but I try to eat at least 5 times a day. I'm cautious about what I eat and I rarely drink soda and similar beverages. I also very rarely eat candy/chips and such.

I'm not going to jump on the AAS wagon without a strict diet and workout plan. I'm gonna get a routine going that I feel comfortable with first and stick to it during the cycle and beyond.

[HawaiianPride.]

By the appearance of my your physique, you don't look like you've spent quality time training and dedicating yourself to nutrition. You aren't steroid ready just yet, to it would most certainly be wise to get those in check first like you've stated above.

[Babel26]

By the appearance of my your physique, you don't look like you've spent quality time training and dedicating yourself to nutrition. You aren't steroid ready just yet, to it would most certainly be wise to get those in check first like you've stated above.

You're probably right. I used to be bigger and leaner, but that was 2 years ago. I've lost some weight since then and not been working out as much as I should.

Thanks for your input though.

[sigman roid]

The first thing you need to do is go and post your diet in the diet forum and let them boys help you out at 22% bf you dont need steroids you need diet to bring that down

[Babel26]

Just an update about my BF%.. Apparently I used a calculator for women earlier so it showed wrong results. With the right calculator my BF% is 14%.

[Matt]

If you could post a picture that would be great..

First cycle should be test only. Many start with test c/e because you will only need to inject twice a week. A good starting dose would be between 350mgs ew and 500mgs ew...

Pct would be a standard clomid/nolva and hcg would be an option.....

[gymfu]

Well that makes more since. At 14% your ok to run a cycle, but you have other issues to deal with.
You need to be training hard for at least 3 years reguraly. There is a good reason for this, your connective tissues take years to grow and get stronger. With less time spent building up your fondation you risk a bad injury while on the cycle. Your muscles get stronger but the tendons and such are not ready for it.

[Addictive]

If you could post a picture that would be great..

First cycle should be test only. Many start with test c/e because you will only need to inject twice a week. A good starting dose would be between 350mgs ew and 500mgs ew...

Pct would be a standard clomid/nolva and hcg would be an option.....

So if I would to do 500 a week would it be 250mg a dose since you do it 2 Times a week?

[Matt]

So if I would to do 500 a week would it be 250mg a dose since you do it 2 Times a week?

You are correct, every 3.5 days...

[Addictive]

Also this this good for pct?

Day 1 300mg
Day 2-11 100mg everyday
Day 12-21 50mg everyday

[Matt]

Also this this good for pct?

Day 1 300mg
Day 2-11 100mg everyday
Day 12-21 50mg everyday

No that pct means nothing, you need to start your own thread as ive just noticed your not the op....

[Addictive]

Ok well I made one its "I've researched and I have a lot of questions" so much to learn..

[Babel26]

If you could post a picture that would be great..

First cycle should be test only. Many start with test c/e because you will only need to inject twice a week. A good starting dose would be between 350mgs ew and 500mgs ew...

Pct would be a standard clomid/nolva and hcg would be an option.....

Alright. As I understand it, Nolva is stronger than Clomid and that both can reduce gains from a cycle. Is this true or just an opinion?

I'm also wondering when I'm suppose to take these PCT aditions including the HCG. And finally, what type of test should I start with on my first and most likely my last cycle?

How much water weight can I expect to gain from a cycle like this? Is there anything I can do to reduce it?

I'm not sure yet what drugs I can get hold on, so I will update you on that later when I know.

[liftw8t]

Agreed with posted above, solo Test cycle like Test E, Test C would be ideal @ 400-500 mg a week splitting into 2 shots. You can use an oral like, Dbol, Tbol or Winny to kickstart but this is optional remember oral effects are temporary in most cases. Hope this helps

[Matt]

Alright. As I understand it, Nolva is stronger than Clomid and that both can reduce gains from a cycle. Is this true or just an opinion?

I'm also wondering when I'm suppose to take these PCT aditions including the HCG. And finally, what type of test should I start with on my first and most likely my last cycle?

How much water weight can I expect to gain from a cycle like this? Is there anything I can do to reduce it?

I'm not sure yet what drugs I can get hold on, so I will update you on that later when I know.

Well lets not speculate and wait for your compounds to arrive...

Hcg shouldnt be needed for a test only cycle imo. Clomid and nolva are used to help re-boot your natural test production, they help keep gains achieved whilst on cycle...

[AlphaGenetics]

Alright. As I understand it, Nolva is stronger than Clomid and that both can reduce gains from a cycle. Is this true or just an opinion?

I'm also wondering when I'm suppose to take these PCT aditions including the HCG. And finally, what type of test should I start with on my first and most likely my last cycle?

How much water weight can I expect to gain from a cycle like this? Is there anything I can do to reduce it?

I'm not sure yet what drugs I can get hold on, so I will update you on that later when I know.

Nolva and clomid will not reduce gains, they will help you recover faster so you can hold on to them. Clomid and nolva for pct will be started when the the test is no longer active in your system depending on what your running. You can expect probably between 5 and 10 pounds of water weight and running an ai will reduce this.

[Babel26]

Well lets not speculate and wait for your compounds to arrive...

Hcg shouldnt be needed for a test only cycle imo. Clomid and nolva are used to help re-boot your natural test production, they help keep gains achieved whilst on cycle...

I can get hold on Test C and either Nolva and Clomid. I'm not sure yet when I'm gonna start with the cycle, but it will be before newyear most likely. Can the compounds be stored over several months in my refrigerator?

I've also read that there is a possibility of growing breasts (gynecomastia) from using Test C. Is that very likely and what would be the warning signs if this would happen?

What is the warning signs I should look out for when on my first cycle?

Sorry for all the questions, but this is a big decision for me. On another note. AAS usage is almost like a taboo where I'm from. People look down on you if you use it.

[Babel26]

Anyone?

[HawaiianPride.]

I can get hold on Test C and either Nolva and Clomid. I'm not sure yet when I'm gonna start with the cycle, but it will be before newyear most likely. Can the compounds be stored over several months in my refrigerator? Room temp, cool dry place.

I've also read that there is a possibility of growing breasts (gynecomastia) from using Test C. Is that very likely and what would be the warning signs if this would happen? It's a possibility. Signs include itchyness/lump/tenderness/irritation. You'll know when it hits. This is why it's imperative to have an AI or Anti-E on hand to combat this.

What is the warning signs I should look out for when on my first cycle? Acne, elevated BP, loss of libido, hairloss, kidney/liver issues ect.

Sorry for all the questions, but this is a big decision for me. On another note. AAS usage is almost like a taboo where I'm from. People look down on you if you use it. - It's like this in a lot of places.

Bold.

HP.

[Babel26]

Thanks HP..

I've never really had trouble with Acne in my life so hopefully I wont be troubled by it. I'm a bit worried about hair loss though cause I think I'm more susceptible to it than normal. I've not lost any hair yet thankfully.