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    First cycle/ do you really need that much.

    When you do a search and look at a cycle for a first time user they always recommened 500mg of testosterone a week. Is this much really necessary, i mean whats wrong with using 400mg a week, even 300mg instead of the 500mg.

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    500mg/wk is a good beginner dose.

    you can see how you react, sides, and still make good gains.

    studies show at leat 300mg/wk is needed for gaining muscle,

    but don't have to worry about that for a few years.

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    i know people that have had great success with 300-400 range but that was also stacked with something or multiple things. goodluck

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    I ran about 400 my first time, lots of gains... IVe seen a first cycle of 300/wk Test E alone and it put some good size on the user. It will be determined by how your body takes to it, your diet, training and rest.

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    I don't see any point in going under 500mg. Might as well get the most out of your cycle. If you run a low dose, all you are doing is testing what sides you get. 400mg will yield good gains but might as well use the 500mg to be safe

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMaleDawg View Post
    I don't see any point in going under 500mg. Might as well get the most out of your cycle. If you run a low dose, all you are doing is testing what sides you get. 400mg will yield good gains but might as well use the 500mg to be safe
    X2 i understand 400mg if you weigh 160lbs or something.. but 500mg will give you the optimal amount in your body with little/no more side effects

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    I see no difference between 400mg and 500mg of Enanthate .

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawaiianPride. View Post
    I see no difference between 400mg and 500mg of Enanthate.
    how can you really know for sure though? If you ran 400mg your first cycle, then 500mg for your second, then sure the first cycle will yield better gains because it's your first. Who is to say you wouldn't have had better results using 500mg your first cycle?

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    It's a 72mg free equivalent difference of actual test. You will hardly notice a difference between the two. 400mg and 600mg would make more sense.

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