Test E or Test C to supplement Anavar or Equipoise cycle...which one??

**fossilfuel7** · 08-11-2010, 05:27 AM

So would Test E or Test C be the better choice to supplement @ 200mg per weeks with an Equipoise or Anavar cycle.

I am either going to do Anavar at 60mg for 8 weeks with the Test....or

I am going to do Equipoise at 400mg per week with the Test.

This would be my first cycle and I will be using it to aid with a nagging pec that I finally strained this week.

I was going to go Anavar or Equipoise alone but, figured I should throw a low dose of Test in there for optimal results of of either compound and to avoid side effects of no Test through the cycle.

**Big** · 08-11-2010, 05:35 AM

There is really no observable difference between the two.

**baseline_9** · 08-11-2010, 05:43 AM

Why not just run a test cycle?

**marcus300** · 08-11-2010, 05:45 AM

There is no difference in test e and cyp except the cyp as a slighter heavier ester.

Eq isnt worth doing and is a compelte waste of time IMHO and if i was you id look at upping the test dose and just running test only and leave the other compounds out, go with 300-400mgs per wk of either test e or cyp

**fossilfuel7** · 08-11-2010, 05:52 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

There is no difference in test e and cyp except the cyp as a slighter heavier ester.

Eq isnt worth doing and is a compelte waste of time IMHO and if i was you id look at upping the test dose and just running test only and leave the other compounds out, go with 300-400mgs per wk of either test e or cyp

I had just read that EQ was a good AAS for recovery and muscle injuries...that's why I was contemplating using it for a first cycle with the situation I am in.

If you say Test at 300-400mg per week would be better for my situation, then I will heed to that advice.

**marcus300** · 08-11-2010, 05:56 AM

Originally Posted by fossilfuel7

I had just read that EQ was a good AAS for recovery and muscle injuries...that's why I was contemplating using it for a first cycle with the situation I am in.

If you say Test at 300-400mg per week would be better for my situation, then I will heed to that advice.

If this is your first cycle I wouldnt use any kind of AAS to recover from muscle injury, i would use your natural bodies ability to cure this issue and I would use a AAS cycle to build muscle tissue, personally id wait and rehab your injury.

**baseline_9** · 08-11-2010, 05:59 AM

If u uave a border line injury why wud u wanna take gear

It will simply make you stronger while on are risk making that injury even worse since u will be moving more weight

**fossilfuel7** · 08-11-2010, 06:21 AM

With all due respect, this injury will not rehab on it's on. It has been 3 years and it never would go away on it's own or heal. It has always kind of nagged and now that I start going a little heavy...it strains.

It's obvious that it will never heal up all the way at this point.

I have watched my buddy go on a cycle of Sust250 and EQ and within the first week he noticed his old muscle oriented injuries feeling better and he benches wayyyy more then me and I am no slouch at 330 for my size.

My problem has been poor muscle recovery IMO..due to genetics and construction work. I have a good diet and it has never effected my recovery any better than when I wasn't on a good diet.

Steroids build muscle much faster then what your body does normally...and I just don't see how AAS would not be very beneficial for muscle specific injury rehab....especially when I know of pro's on the Strongman circuit that have used AAS to come back fast from injuries.

Am I wrong here??

**fossilfuel7** · 08-11-2010, 06:23 AM

I also ought to mention that by the time I receive the gear, it will be at least two weeks post strain on my pec and it should be on it's way to healing and I would use the AAS for a couple weeks at least before using heavier weight.

**baseline_9** · 08-11-2010, 06:35 AM

I reciently talked to a guy that tore his peck when he started a cycle

IMO the risk is just not worth it

Get some physio and rest it a lot

**fossilfuel7** · 08-11-2010, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

I reciently talked to a guy that tore his peck when he started a cycle

IMO the risk is just not worth it

Get some physio and rest it a lot

Yes, well I strained with a work weight that was 30 pounds less than what I used last week...so it's obvious it's just not recovering fast enough between workouts...or I caught it at just exactly the wrong time.

**baseline_9** · 08-11-2010, 06:52 AM

If its not recovered dont train it

How can u complain about it not recovering if ur breaking it back down in the gym each week

**fossilfuel7** · 08-11-2010, 07:00 AM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

If its not recovered dont train it

How can u comppain about it not recovering if ur breaking it back down in the gym each week

This is my point exactly. It has nagged for 3 years and whenever I get to this weight it flares up.

I'm just tired of seeing bro's using AAS blow me out of the water and not get injured and talk about how good there muscle recovery is when they cycle and I am stuck with the same nagging issue and have to be afraid at every workout.

**marcus300** · 08-11-2010, 07:07 AM

How old are you FF?

**baseline_9** · 08-11-2010, 07:15 AM

Is ur naggin injury from flat bench press

If so drop it now!

**fossilfuel7** · 08-11-2010, 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

How old are you FF?

I'm a seasoned 28 lol.

**fossilfuel7** · 08-11-2010, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

Is ur naggin injury from flat bench press

If so drop it now!

Yeah, but that is the only exercise that builds size in my upper body and allows me to maintain size.

**baseline_9** · 08-11-2010, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by fossilfuel7

Yeah, but that is the only exercise that builds size in my upper body and allows me to maintain size.

Rubbish, there are plenty of exercise that you can swap flat bench for

It is well known for pec/ shouoder problems

Incline press, decline press are both better options IMO

**fossilfuel7** · 08-11-2010, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

Rubbish, there are plenty of exercise that you can swap flat bench for

It is well known for pec/ shouoder problems

Incline press, decline press are both better options IMO

Bro, I never did have good results with those exercises in my 13 years of lifting.

Different exercises work for different people when it comes to growth.

I am good at shoulder military pressing and it builds my shoulders good but nothing builds my chest like flat bench. Just personal my experience.

**baseline_9** · 08-11-2010, 07:54 AM

R u trying 2 tell me that for the last 13 years your chest workouts have be just the flat benchpress??

Learn how to do ince and dec correctly and i bet they will work for you

**Oil-KID11** · 08-11-2010, 08:14 AM

Now I may be out of line in saying this. But, from what I have researched and in my case in my early to mid 20's and playing a professional sport I was pushed towards steroids in my recovery of reconstructive shoulder surgery. Did wonders for me in repairing some of the muscle damage....Granted I was not lifting heavy either as well, towards the later part of my therapy.

**fossilfuel7** · 08-11-2010, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by Oil-KID11

Now I may be out of line in saying this. But, from what I have researched and in my case in my early to mid 20's and playing a professional sport I was pushed towards steroids in my recovery of reconstructive shoulder surgery. Did wonders for me in repairing some of the muscle damage....Granted I was not lifting heavy either as well, towards the later part of my therapy.

Interesting. Thanks for your post.