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08-12-2010, 04:53 PM #1
Critique and give advice on next cycle please
weeks 1-12 test prop 100mg eod.
weeks 1-6 tbol 40/40/50/50/60/60
weeks 6-12 oral winny 40/40/40/50/50/50
and I will be running a proper pct.
I've ran prop before, I've never ran tbol or winny. I was going to do just prop and tbol, but I thought it'd be nice to really get hard and cut up after the tbol, so I decided to add the winny.
Please feel free to critique my cycle and give me suggestions. Thoughts on what to use for liver protection etc? Thanks guysLast edited by JBarron; 08-12-2010 at 05:17 PM.
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You know the drill:
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08-12-2010, 04:56 PM #3
two things:
i have read many, many times that keeping the doses constant (50mg ed) is better than varying them, why vary them like you do?
12 straight weeks of oral might be very hard on your liver.. maybe take a 2-3 weeks break in between the orals to relieve your liver a bit?
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08-12-2010, 04:57 PM #4
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08-12-2010, 05:04 PM #5
I actually think I'm gonna drop the winny, I've just been readin bad things about oral winny.
I didn't know keeping the dose constant served better results, I will probably just run the tbol at 50 straight through then, unless I'm not gettin anything from it I'll bump it up.
23
6'0
187lbs
7-8% bf
I've ran one cycle of test prop 150mgs eod for 12 weeks.
pct will be clomid 100 and nolva 40 for 16 days, then clomid 50 and nolva 20 for 16 more, along with some otc stuff. I'll pretty much use the same pct I used for my last cycle, it brought my fellas back in about a week, so it worked out well.Last edited by JBarron; 08-12-2010 at 05:08 PM.
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08-12-2010, 05:17 PM #6
Personally I feel you can add a little more weight naturally. Just had to throw that out there.
Now regarding your cycle, if you don't want the Winstrol , substitute it for Var. It's possible to run orals for 12 weeks (I personally don't) if you have an idea on how this will effect your liver values. I suggest BW prior to your cycle and 1 months after PCT for evaluation and comparisons. Regarding your duration on the test, you might want to re-evaluate what you have proposed and taper it down a bit. More than likely you'll notice a plateau long before your 14 week marker.
So something like:
1-12 Prop 100mg EOD
1-5 Tbol 60mg ED
8-12 Var 60mg ED
Aromasin 10mg EOD (optional)
NAC or Liv52 throughout cycle
3 days after last pin PCT+
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08-12-2010, 05:21 PM #7
I meant to put 1-12 on the prop, idk why I put 1-14. But yeah I got good gains from the prop for 12 weeks, I think I'm just gonna stick to 1 oral for my second cycle, better to add one thing at a time, so I know if somethin goes wrong I can pin it on the oral. I didn't get any water bloat or gyno from the prop, and I'm doing tbol in hopes to avoid the water and gyno possibility (or else I'd run dbol ). So I don't think I'll run an AI for now.
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08-12-2010, 05:22 PM #8
Good thinking.
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08-12-2010, 05:29 PM #9
corrected cycle looks good bro.... have fun
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08-12-2010, 05:43 PM #10
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