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    Raloxifene or ai

    First off 35 lifting since I was 21 didn't use any aas till 28. 216 right now about 15% bf still cutting still slightly out of shape from knee surgery last winter. Diet 6 - 8 small meals a day lean beef chicken eggs shrimp whole wheats vegtables and little fruit protein shakes. I work construction sometimes it's all I have time for. Healthy fats cooked with meat. Have done test only test deca and couple test tren cycles. Nolva and clomid for pct usually lower the dose on clomid it messes with my head bad. Now to the question I am going to run test 600 a week and deca 400 a week. I have never had gyno problems but I have always run arimidex or stane. My buddy which usually knows a lot about aas is making me question his advice on running raloxifine during cycle instead of a different ai. Will have prami on hand. Not to worried about bloat going to be bulking once I finish cutting and only really got acne on first cycle and few when I come off. Not sure of length yet but planning on a longer cycle 15-20weeks deca 16-22 of test. No front load liver will have enough abuse don't want to punish it with d balls. Probably get some liver pills also. Won't start till I lose more fat. And I know my stats are not huge but I started out at 180 fat at 21 dropped down to 160 cut and lifted till I was 190 before using aas. My body is built for long distance
    Running been alot of work natural and not natural to change that.

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    If Exe or Dex has worked in the past then there I see no reason to change your methods.

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    Guess his reasoning is that ralo will still protect against gyno sides but allow estrogen to still be there allowing for maximum muscle gain. And from what I have looked up seems to be safer to run longer. Never have used hcg but looking into that more.'my nuts bounce right back but still think it would be a wise choice.

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    HCG pre-PCT always makes the recovery protocol a bit easier. No harm in including this in future cycles.

    I like Exe far better than any AI due to it's many benefits it has to offer. Don't be concerned about these AI's hindering your gains if ran at normal dosages. People get too concerned about estrogen being to low. If your dose is within proper range, you'll be fine and estrogen levels shouldn't be an issue. Letro is a different story in my book.

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    And I should not say no gyno issues tried test only cycle once with out ai and nimples got little tender and itchy so got right in ai went away.

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