Thread: First Cycle
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08-15-2010, 08:34 PM #1New Member
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First Cycle
Ok Gents,
I am 35 5'11 195lbs and I have been hitting the weights and cardio hard for about 10 years. I am looking at doing my first cycle and wanted to gwet your thoughts. I have been reasearching this for a few months and going to different forums. I need so other points of view. I don't want to put on 20-30lbs during a cycle. I was looking more towards 10lbs of solid muscle. I also do not want something that is going to slow down my quickness. I am at 14% body right now. If you can give me some insight I would really appreciate it. Thanks
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08-15-2010, 08:39 PM #2New Member
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Research all the newbie threads and put together a cycle to get critiqued.
You said you have been researching for a few months, what are YOU thinking of doing for your first cycle?
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08-16-2010, 08:12 AM #3New Member
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Well I liked primo due to the low side effects. I have also read about taking 200mg/wk of test while on this. I was thinking of something like this.
wk 1-8 primo 400mg/wk
Test 200mg/wk
4-8 winny 300mg/wk
I would take milk thistle and liver 52 during the ccyle to help with liver tox when I start the winny and continue 4 weeks after cycle ends.
PCT- wk 10-12 100mg clomid ed
40mg Nolva ed
wk 12-14 50mg clomid ed
20mg nolva ed
Would you recommend mixing HCG in their? I wasn't going to since the dosage of test I am using I shouldnt have a hard time getting my body to recover after cycle. Any thoughts on this cycle or sughgestions for a better one. Thanks
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08-16-2010, 08:34 AM #4New Member
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I would personally stick to the tried and true test only for your first cycle, you should see gains. Keep it simple and save the other stuff for later IMO...
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08-16-2010, 08:37 AM #5
Agree^
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08-16-2010, 08:51 AM #6
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08-16-2010, 09:46 AM #7
3 compounds for a first cycle is way too much, you dont now how your body will react to any of those compounds... Test as a base first cycle and see how your body takes. 4-500/wk for 10-12 weeks will get you what you want.
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08-16-2010, 10:52 AM #8New Member
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Why not just use primo. Very little side effects and is alot safer then the test. If ran the primo at 400mg/wk that should be effective for what I am looking for. What do you guys think of this.
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Test beginner cycle info
TEST BEGINNER CYCLE INFO
here, i'll lay out some stuff for you,
first thing, you need to get your diet in check, here is some threads on cutting, lean bulking and pure bulking to give you some info, but you need to post your diet for critiqueing, your wasting your money otherwise
Diet
UNoffical "How to Bulk" thread and sample diet...
UNoffical "How to Cut" thread and sample diet...
Appetite For Construction
http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/calories/calories.html
only when you have your diet down should you think about cycling, a beginner cycle should look like this
1-12 test e 500mg/week
1-4 dbol 40mg/day ( this is used to kickstart the cycle and is optional)
take your test injections 3.5 days apart, like monday morning and thursday evening
split your dbol up throughout the day, this will keep your blood levels stable, which means less sides and more gains
if you take the dbol, supplement with liv52 to help you liver cope with breaking down the dbol
btw, here are the profiles on the AS you will be using so read them and get to know the stuff your putting in your body
Test Enth
Anabolic Review Steroid Profile: Testosterone Enanthate
Dianabol
Anabolic Review Steroid Profile: Dianabol (Methandrostenolone)
Next is your pct, which should begin two weeks after your last test injection and should be a phneedo's pct, whats that you ask? here it is
Pheendo's PCT
Pheedno's PCT
while your at it read this one as well for future cycles
Anthony Roberts PCT
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=209758
WarMachine's ~Gyno Prevention, Gyno Treatment, and Letro Reversals Explained
"Estrogen Control, Treatment, and PCT by WARMachine"
Now for some other important stuff, you need to have some arimidex on hand in case you start getting water retention or gyno, so get some, in fact, read this thread 3x before you start your cycle as it will tell you....
All You Need To Know About Gyno
All you need to know about GYNO.
that should get you read for your cycle, best of luck
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08-16-2010, 10:59 AM #10
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i know your wanting to do primo but i dont think that alone will get you to where you want to be idk....if your just looking for 10 lbs then why not t-bol only, nice and simple with lean dry gains....reasurch t-bol and see if it appeals to you...
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08-16-2010, 11:03 AM #11
I made the same mistake before my first cycle. I spent a lot of time on different sites that supposedly sell AAS and read the individual profiles. After reading the same thing on 20 different sites I assumed you could just pick the one with the least amount of side effects. I wished I had joined this forum before I did my first cycle.
Stick with the Test, it will be great!
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08-17-2010, 07:17 AM #12New Member
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My diet is in check. I am at 14% BF. I just am wondering why I should choose test over primo??? Everything I have read says primo is the safest with side effects. Where as Test has alot of issues including gyno. I don't know if I will get gyno or not but why risk it if I can get good results from primo. I just want your opinons on this. Would love to know why the Test. Thanks for all the help I appreciate it.
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08-17-2010, 07:27 AM #13
It's what I call a "stacking" compound. It enhances other compounds, but on a standalone level Primo will more than likely disappoint you. It's side effects are mild, but so are the gains. This is why it's best used in conjunction with another hormone.
Don't rule out Test because it has a reputation for giving other people Gyno. I've never experience Gyno and I have more the a few cycles under my belt. Since you've never cycled, you really don't know if you are succeptible to estrogenic side effects. Give what has been tried and true a chance, and take the necessary precautions to prevent any unwanted side effects to occur.
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08-17-2010, 09:42 AM #14New Member
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first cycle
What about Test at a dosage of only 250mg/wk for 12 weeks to see how I react to it. Would this be ok?? I know I won't see the huge gains but i will see some. If I was to do this what Test would u guys recommend?? thanks again
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08-17-2010, 09:51 AM #15
you wont see too many sides from test other than wanting to bone everything with a heartbeat... dont go all the way to 500/wk, stay @ 400/wk and you will see nice gains and know how to adjust next cycle.
My first cycle was about 400/wk of just test and I got more than I was expecting for gains.
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