Nweebie Needs Some HELP

[Crosfitter03]

Hello Everyone, im a newbie to this forum and would like some help, im intrested in doing a cycle to get lean and gain some muscle. Im 20 yrs old, 5'7, 168. about a year ago i did a cycle of test and decca followed by one of trembalone. i had great results as i went from around 154 to 183 lbs and drop down to where am now.

I have recently stop going to the gym and started crossfitting, which consist of fast pase and strenght olympic weight lifting, excercising, and cardio. Heres a look http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA1u8ujUh-Q

ive done some searching and iam thinking of doing test with anavar to get fat burn and strength. Need some advice

Please help!!!

[Sector]

Too young. It is largely debated whether steroids burn fat or not as well.

You wont get cycle advice at 20 years old. Its very hard to wait but you have to look at the big picture, you know the thing called "life".

[NYBigGuy23]

I don't see what the whole age issue is with all you guys. I was 17 (almost 18) the first time I did a cycle and had great results from it. Was only 160lbs at the time and now I'm up over 210 after years and years of training but that first cycle still gave me close to 20lbs bulk.

[PistolStarta]

Its bad for a growing body?

[Neevor]

Testosterone aromatises into estrogen and estradiol. Estradiol accelerates maturation of cartilage into bone, leading to closure of the epiphyses (growth plates) and conclusion of growth. If you shock your body at a young age then you're epiphyses close and you stay short and slender. Shoulders stop getting wider, legs stop getting longer.

As to whether steroids burn fat, fatty tissue as well as muscle tissue have androgen receptors. The more of them are activated in fat the more of it your body will burn for energy. That is, the more preferance your body will give to fat over muscle. Not to mention some steroids increase the amount of AR receptors in fat causing even more fat burning while on a cycle.

Awesome idea to take testosterone at the age of 19 and 5 foot 7 btw. I'd get some Xrays to see if your growth plates have closed yet before you go cementing yourself at 5'7. If they are still open I'd pray for another couple inches. BTW, what is your body fat at?

Crossfit is for skinny bitches IMO. Too much endurance training, not enough limit training. If I wanted to be a weenie who was 10lbs heavier than my gf with a 6 pack I'd do crossfit. You certainly dont need steroids if you are doing crossfit IMO.

[big_ron]

Steroids arnt your best option at the moment, you can EASILY put on come quality muscle just by dieting and training right for a year or two... then review

[Crosfitter03]

i doubt i will be growing anymore my dad is like 5'4 so there aint much hope for me.

body fat i have no idea but im guessing like around 12% (something i know i can improve with better dieting)

ive done cycles before as i said previously but im not looking to compete or anything just something mild to help me out

And as far as crossfit, ive seen tons of huge guys get there and not be able to finish a workout. its just a different way of fitness in my opinion its healthier and a bit more challenging. I did the gym for a long time, since i was 16 from mon-fri and just happen to like this a little better

[Neevor]

i doubt i will be growing anymore my dad is like 5'4 so there aint much hope for me.

body fat i have no idea but im guessing like around 12% (something i know i can improve with better dieting)

ive done cycles before as i said previously but im not looking to compete or anything just something mild to help me out

And as far as crossfit, ive seen tons of huge guys get there and not be able to finish a workout. its just a different way of fitness in my opinion its healthier and a bit more challenging. I did the gym for a long time, since i was 16 from mon-fri and just happen to like this a little better

Oh I agree, I definately wouldnt be able to finish a crossfit work out easily. I also wouldnt be able to compete in a hot dog eating contest but who the f*%k wants to?

Bodybuilder muscles have more sarcoplasmic fluid than strength or endurance atheletes. Power lifters have more myofibrular hypertrophy with more nerve endings to coordinate quick powerful movements. Endurance atheletes tend to have more mitocondria because they need continuous delivery of ATP to the muscles. Everyone is different depending on what they train for. I personally train for muscle size.

You don't need steroids to do crossfit well. Maybe some clen and EPO. Talk to BJJ.

[Bullnutz]

At 20 years your body is kickin out the highest level of test and growth hormone.You can put on serious size by eating the right foods w micro-nutrition,aminos,hard wwork and a lot of sleep.I did my first cycle over 20 years ago before I knew about AAS or PCT and couldn't get a hard on for almost a year.Something to think about.

[batfink0]

Roids at 20 is pure lazy....
and that's that!

[Crosfitter03]

Oh I agree, I definately wouldnt be able to finish a crossfit work out easily. I also wouldnt be able to compete in a hot dog eating contest but who the f*%k wants to?

Bodybuilder muscles have more sarcoplasmic fluid than strength or endurance atheletes. Power lifters have more myofibrular hypertrophy with more nerve endings to coordinate quick powerful movements. Endurance atheletes tend to have more mitocondria because they need continuous delivery of ATP to the muscles. Everyone is different depending on what they train for. I personally train for muscle size.

You don't need steroids to do crossfit well. Maybe some clen and EPO. Talk to BJJ.

ive heard about clen being an intense fat burner but whats EPO (sorry i dnt know all that much)

Everyone else thaanks for their input and advice.

[D7M]

You don't need steroids to do crossfit well. Maybe some clen and EPO. Talk to BJJ.

Dude?!

Don't give this kid any ideas!

He doesn't need any steroids, and definitely, NOT EPO.

[Crosfitter03]

Dude?!

Don't give this kid any ideas!

He doesn't need any steroids, and definitely, NOT EPO.

relax there its just to know im not gonna take anything crazy its not that big of a deal. and last i checked the point of this forum is to learn

[D7M]

relax there its just to know im not gonna take anything crazy its not that big of a deal. and last i checked the point of this forum is to learn

My point is that we get alot of young guys on here who don't know much about AAS (this is not directed at you), and as soon as they hear something they want to hear, they get all excited and do it.

So, while YOU may not run right out and try some EPO, there are those people out there who would read that and try it.

So, yes this board is about education, but it's also about safety.

[Crosfitter03]

My point is that we get alot of young guys on here who don't know much about AAS (this is not directed at you), and as soon as they hear something they want to hear, they get all excited and do it.

So, while YOU may not run right out and try some EPO, there are those people out there who would read that and try it.

So, yes this board is about education, but it's also about safety.

iam not putting anything in my body that iam not 100% sure off. i dnt take this stuff likely especially when it can kill you

Originally Posted by TKO Performance
If you want to cut and run a one compound only cycle try Anavar. The only downside is going to be price. Anavar will actually improve collagen synthesis, so your joints will feel great. It's a 17aa, but not as liver toxic as any of the others (still run liver support though). It builds good strength without a lot of mass. It does not shut down natural test production, so no ED, PCT is much lighter (though still necessary). It also has a great reputation for cutting when used with proper diet and exercise. If there's a wonder drug for cutting, strength without bulk or water gain, and with low side effects Anavar is it.

I read this of another thread. Is anavar something i could take into consideration for cutting and strength without the dangers of Test that Neevor stated earlier?

[D7M]

No.

No var, no EPO, no test.

I wish when I was 20 I spent more time learning about diet...it will pay off in the long run, instead of taking the short cut by using steroids at your age, and going back to your original weight because you don't know how to diet.

[Neevor]

Dude?!

Don't give this kid any ideas!

He doesn't need any steroids, and definitely, NOT EPO.

Sorry man.. I was bein sarcastic but it didn't really come off as sarcastic. Wasn't actually trying to advise anyone to run EPO to get better at Crossfitting. Thats a ridiculous idea. Thanks for correcting the direction of the thread.

[D7M]

Sorry man.. I was bein sarcastic but it didn't really come off as sarcastic. Wasn't actually trying to advise anyone to run EPO to get better at Crossfitting. Thats a ridiculous idea. Thanks for correcting the direction of the thread.

It's cool, man.

I know you were being sarcastic.

Just wanted to make sure he knew that