Advice for beginners/ Scary story
Im in no way an expert, but i do have three cycles under my belt, great gains, no side effects as of yet,
i'd always read on the board, have anti-e's on hand or dont start your cycle, well i ignored this advice because in my previous two cycles, never had a hint of gyno, i figured i wasnt suceptable,
im running 500mg/week enanthate, 30mg dbol first three weeks (im in week 5) and i have run higher doses (750mg sust) so i figured i was safe, well about late sat, early sun, my nipples got a little itchy, by monday/tuesday they hurt like a bitch, then the mad scramble around town to find nolva, all my suppliers were out, i was getting scared, u try have the thought in your head that your starting to grow tits, i almost went to the doctor to beg for nolva, well i found them tonight, and drum roll please my desperate ass paid 100 cdn for 50 -20mg nolvas i guess i learnt my lesson
Scary, but a great story . . .
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Originally posted by G-PIG
. . . then the mad scramble around town to find nolva, all my suppliers were out, i was getting scared, u try have the thought in your head that your starting to grow tits, i almost went to the doctor to beg for nolva, well i found them tonight, and drum roll please my desperate ass paid 100 cdn for 50 -20mg nolvas i guess i learnt my lesson
Seriously, G-PIG, great story - not because it's funny (ah, hell, you know it is), but because a lot of us can identify with you, and there's a lesson to be learned: Be prepared!
There are a few bits of "good news-bad news" in your tale. The first is that you have definitely learned an important lesson. On the other hand, when reality sets in, I hope everyone knows that gyno is not an immediate thing - you don't suddenly turn into a D-cup overnight (one can almost imagine such a scene in a horror flick - looking down as your t-shirt expands and crying out, "Ohhhhhh, shit!").
As for what you paid, here's some reassurance. I assume you live in Canada, where 60 tabs of Nolvadex 20 mg. goes for about $50 CDN in most drug stores (that's the equivalent of about $33.50 USD). But before you think you got ripped off worse, it might help to find out that here in the States, Nolvadex 20 mg. goes for about $200 USD (or $300 CDN) in U.S. drug stores for the same 60 tabs.
See, sometimes it pays to be a Canadian, even if you use, um, alternative sources.
I'm glad things worked out for you, bro. And again, thanks for sharing that - I'm sure a lot of us read the story and felt the way every guy in a movie theater feels when he see someone on screen get kicked in the nuts.
Intersting Question . . .
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Originally posted by Black Stang
I wonder how a Docter would react to that? It would be nice if they would help, then I could get it on my perscription card! :D
Most doctors, of course, would not prescribe AS for BB in the first place. But the notion is interesting . . .
Namely, what is a patient "self-prescribed" AS and began to develop symptoms of gyno? Gyno could be described as a medical disorder, so I imagine that at that point, a doctor would prescribe Nolva to treat the, um, disorder.
The question is whether gyno is listed as an "indication" (reason to use it) in its official product literature. If so, and if a patient actually "presented" (in doctor-speak) with gyno, then that would certainly justify prescribing it.
The question, then, is whether the doctor would believe the patient's claims of itchy, painful nipples, or whether the doctor would take a wait-and-see attitude - in which case, how much, um, growth would there have to be before the doctor confirms the diagnosis and writes the prescription? ("Hey, doc, I'm now a D-cup. Will you write the damn script already???")
Point of trivia: All medical conditions, disorders, and diseases have what's called an ICD-9 code. ICD stands for International Classification of Diseases, and is a master list of everything used to code diagnoses for treatment and insurance purposes. In case anyone ever needs it, yes, there is an ICD-9 code for gynecomastia - it's 611.1.
Anyway, when all things are considered, I would think that a physician would prescribe Nolva if clinically indicated, which raises an interesting possibility. Perhaps the solution (at least in Canada, where the stuff is cheaper) is to start a cycle with everything else, then see the doctor when the pain starts. It would sure beat having to locate a source at the last moment. :D
(No, that's really not my recommendation. Kids, don't try this at home.)
