Pro Hormones - do these actually work

[thunkup]

Are these real. HDrol, Hemadrol, PropaDrol. Methyl Depot etc etc etc.

I have used Hdrol with an obvious reaction, but is this a healthy proper reaction.

BUT as fast as these products go on sale, they are discontinued, WHY?
Are these a good alternative.

Should I steer clear of these products or are they a good starting point.

[Ashop]

Are these real. HDrol, Hemadrol, PropaDrol. Methyl Depot etc etc etc.

I have used Hdrol with an obvious reaction, but is this a healthy proper reaction.

BUT as fast as these products go on sale, they are discontinued, WHY?
Are these a good alternative.

Should I steer clear of these products or are they a good starting point.

There were some that were pretty good actually. Nothing more than designer orals that made it through loop holes. M1T,SUPERDROL,HDROL,MDROL,PPLEX are were orals that worked.

[stack_it]

They are taken off the market because by the time the body breaks them down they are practically steroids. Which makes them often harder on the body then actual aas because of the process it takes through your body.

What's your stats and goals?

Age?
Weight?
Height?
Bodyfat%?
Diet?
Training exp?

[bigpapabuff]

might as well use the real thing. Orals are tough on the liver, may want to look into udca for liver support

[gregghowie]

Good questions! I am interested as hell to see some answers. Cus I to have starting seeing them about in these tiny little bottles in supplimnet shops and at first glance thought here we go another claimed suppliment offering 3000% more anabolic effects than anything else around....

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[HawaiianPride.]

Are these real. HDrol, Hemadrol, PropaDrol. Methyl Depot etc etc etc.

I have used Hdrol with an obvious reaction, but is this a healthy proper reaction.

BUT as fast as these products go on sale, they are discontinued, WHY?
Are these a good alternative.

Should I steer clear of these products or are they a good starting point.

Yes they work and highly toxic. That's why they are all banned. Yes you should steer clear from them.

[Lean1038]

Yes they work and highly toxic. That's why they are all banned. Yes you should steer clear from them.

Comeon... Liver toxicity is extremely exaggerated outside of say M1T and Superdrol.

Designer PH's are very effective if you know how to use them efficiently, just like any AAS.

I've had great success with OTC PHs over the years from H Drol, Pheraplex, H Roid (Promagnon 25), Furazadrol etc...

Another plus is you can safely run 2 or even 3 cycles per year due to the ease of recovery as long as you stay away from the heavy agents like MDrol, M1T, etc...

[HawaiianPride.]

Please dude, do not try to school me on pro-hormones. Without the right precautions, these things can do some damage, REGARDLESS if they are considered mild. Even with the right precautions they are harmful. I've had extensive experience with pro-hormones over the last several years when they first came on the market back when I was a rep or ON.

Yes, progress can be made with them. Your goals may be achieved with them, but I refuse to condone the use of designer steroids. What they claim on their labels and try to push to the public is garbage. Being a former representative for a nutrition company I know this first hand. There are tons of other toxic shit they put in there just to sell a product.

If you want to cycle, do it right, and leave the supplements that claim work better than AAS alone.

[Reed]

Those listed are not mild anabolics by any stretch of the imagination. SD is stronger than dbol for sure and I could go on. They are very strong and are stronger than a lot of the "usuals"

[Lean1038]

Those listed are not mild anabolics by any stretch of the imagination. SD is stronger than dbol for sure and I could go on. They are very strong and are stronger than a lot of the "usuals"

I said, aside from the heavy PHs such as Superdrol, M1T, etc...

OP's questions was do they work? The answer is yes, but properly cycling is just as important as it is with illegal AAS.

[PK-V]

ran epi standalone it was rubbish

[GymHero]

ran epi standalone it was rubbish

great post

[DerrikT]

Had a big effect on me but I wouldn't take them again now I've tried AAS

[Lean1038]

ran epi standalone it was rubbish

Don't get me wrong, there's a lot of garbage out their, just like AAS, but if you stick with proven companies and tested products you're GTG.

CEL, SNS and AX back in the day, Axis Labs, etc... were all solid.

[PK-V]

oh for sure

I was just stating my exp

I mean Mdrol is dbol with out the estro

dont like 17-aa's mmy .2c

[supermanfw]

honestly i think ph's are tougher on your body than steroids

[Gaspari1255]

Don't get me wrong, there's a lot of garbage out their, just like AAS, but if you stick with proven companies and tested products you're GTG.

CEL, SNS and AX back in the day, Axis Labs, etc... were all solid.

That is such a vague statement. Yes, each one of those companies released some strong and effective PHs, but they all have also released some garbage to make a profit. You have to look at the compound, not the company..


Superdrol>Dianabol
H-Drol> Turinabol

Spawn was very effective too. As said muliple times already, PHs can be equally as dangerous as AAS.

[dec11]

the PH's have little or no testing and are just flung onto the market. aas however have been around for a long time and the effects are well documented. i think you can gather which is safest, in context.

[Gaspari1255]

oh for sure

I was just stating my exp

I mean Mdrol is dbol with out the estro

dont like 17-aa's mmy .2c

A few years ago, I remember reading on a couple forums that Superdrol was basically an oral version of Masteron. I'd say thats a fairly accurate compariosn. SD was the ideal lean bulking drug. It filled you up, made you strong as an ox, and kept you nice and hard.

[Gaspari1255]

the PH's have little or no testing and are just flung onto the market. aas however have been around for a long time and the effects are well documented. i think you can gather which is safest, in context.

It all depends on the compound. Is H-Drol easier on the liver than Anadrol or Halo? Absolutely. Is Superdrol safer than Anavar? Absolutely Not.

See where I am coming from?

[bodybuilder]

Finaflex xd, did a cycle and gained 10lb of muscle very good stuff to bad its baned now.

[darkcrayz]

ive taken havoc, hdrol and mdrol. they all work.

[darkcrayz]

oh for sure

I was just stating my exp

I mean Mdrol is dbol with out the estro

dont like 17-aa's mmy .2c

mdrol gave me wicked gyno and back pumps.

[bodybuilder]

fina gave me bad back pumps

[Bonaparte]

A few years ago, I remember reading on a couple forums that Superdrol was basically an oral version of Masteron. I'd say thats a fairly accurate compariosn. SD was the ideal lean bulking drug. It filled you up, made you strong as an ox, and kept you nice and hard.

It isn't "basically" an oral masteron, it is methyl-masteron. However, it doesn't work anything like masteron, since 17aa completely changes a compound.

[Lean1038]

It all depends on the compound. Is H-Drol easier on the liver than Anadrol or Halo? Absolutely. Is Superdrol safer than Anavar? Absolutely Not.

See where I am coming from?

Exactly.

[Angel of death]

theres a difference between prohormones and designer steroids. prohormones are generally weaker and by deffinition need to convert to a steroid once theyre in your body. as opposed to a designer steroid or "pro steroid" which is active immediately and only legal through some loophole in what the FDA actually has on their banned substances list

[Gaspari1255]

It isn't "basically" an oral masteron, it is methyl-masteron. However, it doesn't work anything like masteron, since 17aa completely changes a compound.

I didn't say it was the word of god or 100% factual information supported with research. I said it was a comparison I read on another forum a couple years back....

[dec11]

It all depends on the compound. Is H-Drol easier on the liver than Anadrol or Halo? Absolutely. Is Superdrol safer than Anavar? Absolutely Not.

See where I am coming from?

but my point was that there isnt any research into their usage whereas aas have a wealth of studies and studies behind them. i know which id prefer for that reason

[Gaspari1255]

but my point was that there isnt any research into their usage whereas aas have a wealth of studies and studies behind them. i know which id prefer for that reason

I understand that. AAS have decades of studies and trial & error behind them. Wherre as PHs only have a couple years of information. That's a valid point.

[bodybuilder]

Yah i dont think ill ever do another ph again

[steroidsarebad]

Yes PH/DS work. I gained 15 lbs of muscle on my P-MAG cycle. Kept about 10 pounds after PCT. I had my blood tested before and after, nothing really stood out but who knows what damage it could have had on my body. Probably going to just stick with Test if I decide to run anything in the future.

[thunkup]

Thanks for all the posts guys. My stats are 6ft 115kg age 35 dont know body fat but not lean by any stretch. I used to train everyday basically, but got lazy for a few years. Definitely would prefer AAS but this stuff is easier to get in Australia when you dont know anyone with the real stuff.

I am currently running a cycle of Hemadrol which from what I can get from the net it is basically a clone of the original Halodrol. Am I wrong here?

Anyone got any views on Methyl Depot and Methyl-S?
Should I be steering clear of this Methylated stuff as well?

I have been finding heaps of sites online with fake AAS and thanks to this site I have done the homework and saved myself the money and not been scammed. Thanks again.