Happened to talk to a 21 yr old today who is thinking

[SlimmerMe]

who is being tempted with Winny at the gym--he had no idea that I know this site.. and was shocked I had even heard of winny ..so I told him I would ask some male friends what they think about this

he is 21
5'11
155 pounds---real nice upper
5-6% BF
and wants to cut and add 10 pounds
and his gym buddies are tempting him with winny trying to sell it too him

I told him he needed to wait until at least 25 since it could hurt him down the road and stop his natural production and I told him his growth plates have not stopped yet..but I could be his mother so this is the reason why I am asking here

Any IDEAS THAT MIGHT HELP HIM NOT do this so soon----since I think 21 is too young---(AM I RIGHT?) ---I told him diet and cardio is what the answer would be more than likely--but--perhaps something else too might help----THANKS

[Big]

He's 5-6%bf and wants to cut?

[bigp750]

he is to young

[SlimmerMe]

he told me he is 4%--i think more like 10-- so I gave him the benefit of the doubt and wrote 5-6%----but---yes--he wants to cut and gain weight and look like rocky---and I talked to him for over an hour and repeated he was too young--but--his gym buddies are tempting him with winny

[stack_it]

What is he trying to do get to 0% or something lol. He probably used that little handheld bf estimator. I used one when I was at 10% and it said I was 4.2%.

He's too young to mess with any aas and at 155lbs doesn't need it to cut or bulk. He needs to learn how to eat properly.

Just ask him if he wants to chance being 21 and not be able to get it up in bed. Does he even know what pct is?

[SlimmerMe]

I have no idea what he knows but he does workout a lot with some BIG guys--however I do think the "21 in bed" idea is a great idea!

[themoreyouknow]

winny suppresses your natty test..you can't run it alone. i think the idea of him having ED at 21 may change his mind lol

[Reed]

He needs to worry about diet, training and cardio more than what compound will make him cut AND gain weight.

At those stats and 10% bf he needs to stay natural. He needs more quality time in the gym. There are no quick fixes

[Angel of death]

I personally dont think theres much of a difference if you juice at 21 or 25 as long as youre not 18....plus winstrol doesnt convert to estrogen at all which is the main factor is closing the growth plates even though theyre more than likely already closed

[lovbyts]

Remember guys, this is coming from a FEMALE member. When she says he has a nice upper body..... remember MOST women/girls like SKINNY guys and think SKINNY is the same thing as buff/muscular.....

Take it for what it is.

Bottom like, his is a stick, he is thin borderline anorexic, Ambecrombie model. LOL

He is to young and underweight. He needs to learn how to eat. He needs education also. Tell him to come here and learn and NOT to take Winny or anything for now.

[SlimmerMe]

Remember guys, this is coming from a FEMALE member. When she says he has a nice upper body..... remember MOST women/girls like SKINNY guys and think SKINNY is the same thing as buff/muscular.....

Take it for what it is.

Bottom like, his is a stick, he is thin borderline anorexic, Ambecrombie model. LOL

He is to young and underweight. He needs to learn how to eat. He needs education also. Tell him to come here and learn and NOT to take Winny or anything for now.

LOL!!! you are probably right!! he is not BIG! but---he does have a very buffed top part to his body---and skinny legs--I told him to go drink a milk shake actually! just kidding him but I will tell him all of these comments--

By the way---I WISH MEN LIKED NON-SKINNY WOMEN!!!! not sticks!

[GymHero]

LOL!!! you are probably right!! he is not BIG! but---he does have a very buffed top part to his body---and skinny legs--I told him to go drink a milk shake actually! just kidding him but I will tell him all of these comments--

Don't tell him he is anorexic haha! He might go mad and just go on that der tren :O!

[stack_it]

And tell him to stop being a pvssy and do legs if he wants to grow

[SlimmerMe]

Don't tell him he is anorexic haha! He might go mad and just go on that der tren :O!

Yep----that would do him in---he is so proud of what he has done so far--and to tell him he is skinny would take him over the edge!

[GymHero]

And tell him to stop being a pvssy and do legs if he wants to grow

Serious Squats put meat on them bones!!! get some

Yep----that would do him in---he is so proud of what he has done so far--and to tell him he is skinny would take him over the edge!

Introduce him to foodadrol haha

[SlimmerMe]

And tell him to stop being a pvssy and do legs if he wants to grow

he mentioned something about the legs that if he worked out the legs he would stop growing--I will ask what on earth he meant---I told him squats give gh burst---

[stack_it]

he mentioned something about the legs that if he worked out the legs he would stop growing--I will ask what on earth he meant---I told him squats give gh burst---

Are you serious? I guess that's why all the body builders are so small.

It's a poor excuse to not work out the most important muscle group.

[SlimmerMe]

Are you serious? I guess that's why all the body builders are so small.

It's a poor excuse to not work out the most important muscle group.

I am serious---when I see him tomorrow to give him my results from this, I will ask him what he meant---I hope I misunderstood when he said this nonsense--but I did specifically tell him that squats help burst gh---and he mentioned it helped test which I was not sure about this--and then I wondered ...."well why wouldn't you for that reason? if for any other reason"made no sense

[stack_it]

Maybe he's trying to keep his legs small to make his manhood look bigger? I'm interested to hear his theory behind not training legs. It sounds like a new one lol. Make sure you fill us in.

[GymHero]

Maybe he's trying to keep his legs small to make his manhood look bigger? I'm interested to hear his theory behind not training legs. It sounds like a new one lol. Make sure you fill us in.

Just shave your pubes, makes my little guy look like a monster...

[stack_it]

Just shave your pubes, makes my little guy look like a monster...

I built a deck on the front of my house and when my gf saw it she said she thought it was gonna be bigger. I told her I could trim the bushes to make my deck look bigger lol.




Sorry about getting off topic in q&a

[GymHero]

I built a deck on the front of my house and when my gf saw it she said she thought it was gonna be bigger. I told her I could trim the bushes to make my deck look bigger lol.




Sorry about getting off topic in q&a

haha go back to the lounge.... back on topic, try and get this kid to make an account here

[SlimmerMe]

Maybe he's trying to keep his legs small to make his manhood look bigger? I'm interested to hear his theory behind not training legs. It sounds like a new one lol. Make sure you fill us in.

I will----because when he mentioned this I was so surprised and ready to stop the conversation since I had to go---but will clarify this tomorrow--I hope I misunderstood him because it sounded ridiculous

[SlimmerMe]

haha go back to the lounge.... back on topic, try and get this kid to make an account here

I love a good laugh anytime!

[SlimmerMe]

i built a deck on the front of my house and when my gf saw it she said she thought it was gonna be bigger. I told her i could trim the bushes to make my deck look bigger lol.




Sorry about getting off topic in q&a

lol!

[stack_it]

I agree. Get him to make an account here

[SlimmerMe]

so---
too young
needs to learn to eat better and more often
needs cardio and better training
needs squats
could suppress natural test
WHAT ELSE? to keep him from winny?

[GymHero]

so---
too young
needs to learn to eat better and more often
needs cardio and better training
needs squats
could suppress natural test
WHAT ELSE? to keep him from winny?

Squats,dead lifts,bench! Honestly these things will make him grow like a weed with some good food. Ask him if he wants to have a limp dick? Since Im sure he will since he doesnt know what a pct is

[stack_it]

Erectile dysfunction

[Nooomoto]

LOL...5'11" and 155 lbs and he wants to "cut"? WTF?

[SlimmerMe]

ED: that should do it!

[GymHero]

LOL...5'11" and 155 lbs and he wants to "cut"? WTF?

Dam that guy is ripped!

[AlphaMaleDawg]

He sounds like the typical dbag at the gym who thinks he doesn't need to do legs and wants to take any steroid given to him. I see his type all the time and it makes me rage. I would punch this clown in the face and watch him cry as I get all th girls because I am better than him

[Dan111]

The sad and unfortunate part about this is that more than likely no matter what you tell him...he's probably going to do it anyway, but hopefully you can stop him

[SlimmerMe]

PEER PRESSURE! and temptation with a gym member pushing stuff to sell---not a good scene. But--I am trying and it was odd the conversation came up in the first place since out of the clear blue--and the look on his face when I knew what he was talking about was PRICELESS!

[Nooomoto]

Whats even better is that this dude is walking around the gym telling random girls he may or may not do steroids . What a tool. Tell him to quit talking to people and workout.

[themoreyouknow]

Whats even better is that this dude is walking around the gym telling random girls he may or may not do steroids. What a tool. Tell him to quit talking to people and workout.

agreed

[SlimmerMe]

thanks guys---I am getting some good talking points---plus looking all over the place in other threads to get more info because if I can keep one more 21 year old away from this for a few years---the better

[AlphaMaleDawg]

thanks guys---I am getting some good talking points---plus looking all over the place in other threads to get more info because if I can keep one more 21 year old away from this for a few years---the better

it's not just that. Winstrol only is a $hitty cycle

[Brodon]

Why not just get him to go to the hospital/doctors office for a x-ray scan to see if his growth plates are shut.. and get a blood test while hes at it

then after he gets this all done.. tell him where to read about proper nutrition especially for while on steroids ..

remind him that taking winny without a steroid base he will have ED.. so he needs at least a trt dosage of a test based steroid (like e and cyp)