Is clen the answer

[clipper252]

Im not very experienced on the use of anabolic steroids . Iv only used one cycle of winny for 8 weeks at 40mg a day. I put on a small bit of size and my muscles looked more defined but I want to cut down to the point where i have a visible 6/8 pack and still have the majority of my muscle.

Im 5'9 weight 80kg, and have a body fat of about 12%

Any suggestions?

[SuperBird]

i just have a few questions... are you in a hurry? summer is almost over. you dont have interest in substantial muscle gains? just good solid build?

[HawaiianPride.]

Welcome.

Clen may aid in fat loss, but it certainly is not a major necessity. It all starts with nutrition.

[clipper252]

i just have a few questions... are you in a hurry? summer is almost over. you dont have interest in substantial muscle gains? just good solid build?

well im planning on moving to Miami for a few months so i want to get it sorted for that, its been a goal of mine for ages that I havent achieved compared with my lifting goal which took time but I accomplished them. But of course I wouldnt mind adding some more muscle but Im not that tall so dont want to get a whole pile bigger than I am

[clipper252]

Welcome.

Clen may aid in fat loss, but it certainly is not a major necessity. It all starts with nutrition.

Nutrition aint too bad minus a few lapses every now and again, just need that something extra

[SuperBird]

well i asked my questions because, i like AAS, but i also like to stay off ancillaries all that i can. i dont like to take clen . but it really does a good job IF your diet is right and you have some cardio time each week. im like you, i find my self in a position that i just can make a good diet on certain days.

what i was thinking is that if you have no serious interest in putting on substantial muscle, and are at a point that you want to take a couple weeks to seriously lean out, then do the clen. i think youll be happy, because your lean now, and youll be good and ripped on it. and it will be a brief use.

but if you had equal interest in putting on some substantial muscle, then i would say stay off the clen and just do a good cutting and lean building cycle. something containing winstrol . let someone else with a really nice lean building and cutting cycle advise you on a good plan for that.

im just doing clen right now because ive put on a little flub on my belt line, and im kinda in a hurry to get it off by next month for a couple reasons.

[SuperBird]

But of course I wouldnt mind adding some more muscle but Im not that tall so dont want to get a whole pile bigger than I am

well you say you like to add some more muscle also, then you can do that and still lean out pretty good also. i dont think you have to worry about turning into a Lee Priest in the next six months.... but TKO posted this in another thread and i think it would be good advice in answer to your question if you dont get what you want with clen and dont want winstrol in your cycle. winstrol isnt great as far as sides, but i personally dont mind it. although as i said, i think the clen would be a nice deal for you for a few weeks.

If you want to cut and run a one compound only cycle try Anavar. The only downside is going to be price. Anavar will actually improve collagen synthesis, so your joints will feel great. It's a 17aa, but not as liver toxic as any of the others (still run liver support though). It builds good strength without a lot of mass. It does not shut down natural test production, so no ED, PCT is much lighter (though still necessary). It also has a great reputation for cutting when used with proper diet and exercise. If there's a wonder drug for cutting, strength without bulk or water gain, and with low side effects Anavar is it.

you can always adjust...... throw in 50mg test, 40mcg clen, lots of variations.

[ghettoboyd]

diet and cardio are the way to achiving your goals....you are lean so clen can help but its not some mirical cutting compound that a lot of peeps think it is....and stay away from the winny unless your going to run some test with it imho....if your set on doing something then try clen first....good luck....

[SNRose07]

Building up the "blocks" of your abdomen will make your abs appear to "pop" out more and will make them more visible and pronounced even while holding a little higher body fat percentage. It may be beneficial to hit your abs in the same way you would any other muscle group.. hard and heavy. I think doing this, along with taking all the other good advice given to you here, will be a helpful contribution to your goal of making your abs more visible. Good luck.

[HawaiianPride.]

Building up the "blocks" of your abdomen will make your abs appear to "pop" out more and will make them more visible and pronounced even while holding a little higher body fat percentage. It may be beneficial to hit your abs in the same way you would any other muscle group.. hard and heavy. I think doing this, along with taking all the other good advice given to you here, will be a helpful contribution to your goal of making your abs more visible. Good luck.

I respectfully disagree in regards to your training idea.

Direct abdominal work will not make them appear more visible by any means. Reducing the adipose tissue between the skin and muscle fascia is what makes them appear.

[SNRose07]

I respectfully disagree in regards to your training idea.

Direct abdominal work will not make them appear more visible by any means. Reducing the adipose tissue between the skin and muscle fascia is what makes them appear.

I think your way is definitely the way that should be pursued in order to get the best quality appearance. I'm just saying having more pronounced abdominal sections will be a helpful additional factor on top of him losing the body fat. I see it like this, when you have big arms and big shoulders, the muscle groups are more pronounced and visible because of the contrast to each other as they separate from their tie in origins. As opposed to a ripped skinny guy who has less arm and delt development in this example.. the separation becomes less appearant. Same would be true if each of those individuals started gaining body fat, the smaller guy with less drastic muscle contrast would lose the ability to recognize the distinction of each group sooner. If the abs are built larger in each section, their appearant contrast will appear greater and it will make them a little bit easier to make them visible sooner as you drop the body fat. That is, the contrast between each individual "pack."

basically what I said before, I just thought I would reexplain my opinion on the matter.. that's all.

[clipper252]

Has anyone got a succesfull cycle formula to run clen ? im still about 3weeks off starting a cycle but trying to get as much info as possible.

[clipper252]

well i asked my questions because, i like AAS, but i also like to stay off ancillaries all that i can. i dont like to take clen . but it really does a good job IF your diet is right and you have some cardio time each week. im like you, i find my self in a position that i just can make a good diet on certain days.

what i was thinking is that if you have no serious interest in putting on substantial muscle, and are at a point that you want to take a couple weeks to seriously lean out, then do the clen. i think youll be happy, because your lean now, and youll be good and ripped on it. and it will be a brief use.

but if you had equal interest in putting on some substantial muscle, then i would say stay off the clen and just do a good cutting and lean building cycle. something containing winstrol . let someone else with a really nice lean building and cutting cycle advise you on a good plan for that.

im just doing clen right now because ive put on a little flub on my belt line, and im kinda in a hurry to get it off by next month for a couple reasons.

Is clen just run by itself? or is it worth adding something to the cycle??

[HawaiianPride.]

Has anyone got a succesfull cycle formula to run clen? im still about 3weeks off starting a cycle but trying to get as much info as possible.

There are sample protocols all over this website. Including a Clen Faq. Use the search function.

Is clen just run by itself? or is it worth adding something to the cycle??

Yes, in conjunction with a proper diet, clen alone will be enough.

[SuperBird]

Is clen just run by itself? or is it worth adding something to the cycle??

going back to your very first post.....

i wont advise clen . just hit the search button, read and make your own choice.

[clipper252]

Thanks for the straight answer man, I just want to find out as much as possible to make sure there isnt a better product or option for me. But going by the advice iv been getting and from looking around the forums it seem like clen is the the "quickest route" to achieving my goals.

[SuperBird]

Thanks for the straight answer man, I just want to find out as much as possible to make sure there isnt a better product or option for me. But going by the advice iv been getting and from looking around the forums it seem like clen is the the "quickest route" to achieving my goals.

[totti5871]

I respectfully disagree in regards to your training idea.

Direct abdominal work will not make them appear more visible by any means. Reducing the adipose tissue between the skin and muscle fascia is what makes them appear.

dont mean to hijack .. but just wondering. wats the best way to reduce the adipose tissue, any special tricks of the trade ???

[wormwood]

dont mean to hijack .. but just wondering. wats the best way to reduce the adipose tissue, any special tricks of the trade ???

Diet

[Ashop]

Im not very experienced on the use of anabolic steroids . Iv only used one cycle of winny for 8 weeks at 40mg a day. I put on a small bit of size and my muscles looked more defined but I want to cut down to the point where i have a visible 6/8 pack and still have the majority of my muscle.

Im 5'9 weight 80kg, and have a body fat of about 12%

Any suggestions?

Diet is the answer but CLENBUTEROL can be a great tool for stripping fat.