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    I'm crashing hard...3 weeks post cycle no PCT

    Hey guys..I'm in a pretty bad condition right now..I have some pretty bad symptoms. This is what happened. I had a 8 week Tren Ace/Test Prop cycle planned, 150mg Prop/100mg Tren EOD. I was buying from a fairly reputable UG Lab, but this would be my first time with them. So I only bought enough gear for about 4 weeks worth, so if the stuff was bunk I wouldn't waste all my money on extra gear and PCT. I even bought my Adex from them. So 4 weeks in results were good. I gained about 7lbs in 4 weeks but all of it was very dry, I had no water retention in the body, some in the face though..Since I liked the stuff so much at week 2, I grabbed 3 bottles of EQ from he same ug and decided I'd extend my cycle to 12 weeks. I know 10 weeks of EQ wouldn't do much, since I was already 2 weeks in ,so I frontloaded 1200mg the first week, and was gonna go 600mg EW from there on...so when week 4 hit, my supplier wouldn't answer his phone calls...and here I am 20 days after still havn't been able to get a hang of him. I was forced to stop my cycle at week 4 and I didn't even have anything for PCT...


    So I'm 20 days after my cycle and my symptoms are horrible...here is what it looks like:

    -Blood preassure was 145, optimal is 120 and above 140 is high.

    -I feel tierd ALL day, I just wanna sleep, though strength hasn't dropped too much at the gym.

    -I usually sleep for 7 hours and a half, but every single night since 2 weeks into my cycle up untill now I get up ATLEAST once a night.

    -Random tingling/numbness in my hand at night or whenever I sleep/nap

    -Eyes feel so tierd and heavy all the time, I sometimes feel like something is pulsing inside my eye

    -face is bloated for some reason, I have water retention in my face

    -Mouth gets dry often

    NOTE: I don't have any problems getting it up though..so does this mean it didn't shut me down that hard since I was on for 4 weeks only?

    I'm almost 24..starting my last year of school very soon and I'm constantly tierd as ****. The puffy face and high BP is also bothering me a lot..anyone know whats going on? I thought tren ace/test prop would both b outta my system pretty fast..and I doubt EQ is causing this..as I know it has a long half life. Any input on this...?
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    You should never start a cycle without all your gear/pct compounds purchased and ready to use
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    order from ar-r .com clomid/nolva combo

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    Why in the world didnt you get your PCT from AR?

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    This should be a sticky.


    Have your pct ready people!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stack_it View Post
    This should be a sticky.


    Have your pct ready people!
    I agree!


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    Well the deed is already done. Can't you just go to a doctor and explain what happened to you? I'm sure no hospital/doctor would refuse to help you just because you used AAS. Another solution is just to ask any insanely HUGE guy at the gym for their source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undercover View Post
    Well the deed is already done. Can't you just go to a doctor and explain what happened to you? I'm sure no hospital/doctor would refuse to help you just because you used AAS. Another solution is just to ask any insanely HUGE guy at the gym for their source.
    Hopefully this was a joke. If not, bad advice man.

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    It was lol.

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    Gotcha

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    Your cycle doesn't make any damn sense. Why were you just buying various crap little by little instead of getting everything you need beforehand??!!
    Just get some damn Nolva. Any idiot can manage that.

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    I dont know dude. Your cycle kinda lost me. If it were me I would get on the internet or get down to your doctor and find someome whom would know the correction action to be taken. I know that your average GP aint going to be much help. Find a specialist or someone who knows about this kinda thing. Im thinking even if you find one of these (youth clinics) where they often prescribe such drugs as test. They might be able to put you onto someone who may be of assistance. I am thumbsucking. But my kind of thinking is that whatever guys are reccomending you to take such as clomid you will get it far quicker if prescribed it by a doc. If that is the right action to be taken.
    But come know bru! I wise man once said "stupid is as stupid does"

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    as far as blood pressure is concerned, 145 systolic isn't that bad blood pressure fluctuates alot and often, keep getting it checked because so much can make BP fluctuate when you test it. At your age I am quite certain it was some influx that will normalize out.

    ar-r can overnight you some PCT and you can get started right away.

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    im lost, prop/tren , finish with EQ???? serious bad planning mate

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    Well I'm new to this site, about to start my fourth cycle.

    For the OP I did Test Pro / Tren Ace mixed with winn (last 4 weeks of cycle) & deca (low dose to jube joints) for 12 weeks with no issues. My question is why on earth would you front load 1200mg of EQ all at once. IOM that is why you are crashing so hard. Now don't get me wrong I am 6 weeks into my PCT and I feel slowed up but I manage with some NO Shot Gun right before I workout and gets me through no problems. Like it was said before, never start without Novi / Amx / or Clomid on hand...

    I did extensive research before I ever started...

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    Keep eating through this problem as well, dont give you body any reason to go cata.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    im lost, prop/tren, finish with EQ???? serious bad planning mate
    Okay for people that are misunderstanding me, this is how the cycle was supposed to like INITALLY.

    1-8 150mg Test prop EOD
    1-8 100mg Tren Ace EOD
    0.5 Adex EOD

    I got some hands on some EQ and decided that cycle will now look like:

    1-12 150mg Test prop EOD
    1-12 100MG Tren ace EOD
    2-12 600MG EQ EW (1200MG Front loaded first week)
    0.5 Adex EOD

    I DIDN'T buy all the stuff for my cycle at the beginning, because I had no clue if the stuff was bunk or not. So I bought enough gear for 4 weeks only, and if the stuff was good, which it was I was going to go buy the rest of my gear, which I couldn't due to issues /w supplier.

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    OK, so why have you not gotten more gear or a SERM yet?
    I don't see what the issue is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    OK, so why have you not gotten more gear or a SERM yet?
    I don't see what the issue is.
    I'm ordering some Nolva/clomid from AR. My supplier stopped answering his phone about 3 weeks and a half into my cycle. I still havn't been able to get a hang of him since.

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    if i never see another "only got half way through my cycle and cant get more gear" thread it will be too soon. EVERYTHING should be onhand BEFORE starting a cycle that INCLUDES PCT. learned a tough lesson there. hopefully you learned it anyway.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayacrucis View Post
    Okay for people that are misunderstanding me, this is how the cycle was supposed to like INITALLY.

    1-8 150mg Test prop EOD
    1-8 100mg Tren Ace EOD
    0.5 Adex EOD

    I got some hands on some EQ and decided that cycle will now look like:

    1-12 150mg Test prop EOD
    1-12 100MG Tren ace EOD
    2-12 600MG EQ EW (1200MG Front loaded first week)
    0.5 Adex EOD

    I DIDN'T buy all the stuff for my cycle at the beginning, because I had no clue if the stuff was bunk or not. So I bought enough gear for 4 weeks only, and if the stuff was good, which it was I was going to go buy the rest of my gear, which I couldn't due to issues /w supplier.



    Let me guess, this was your first cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayacrucis View Post
    Hey guys..I'm in a pretty bad condition right now..I have some pretty bad symptoms. This is what happened. I had a 8 week Tren Ace/Test Prop cycle planned, 150mg Prop/100mg Tren EOD. I was buying from a fairly reputable UG Lab, but this would be my first time with them. So I only bought enough gear for about 4 weeks worth, so if the stuff was bunk I wouldn't waste all my money on extra gear and PCT. I even bought my Adex from them. So 4 weeks in results were good. I gained about 7lbs in 4 weeks but all of it was very dry, I had no water retention in the body, some in the face though..Since I liked the stuff so much at week 2, I grabbed 3 bottles of EQ from he same ug and decided I'd extend my cycle to 12 weeks. I know 10 weeks of EQ wouldn't do much, since I was already 2 weeks in ,so I frontloaded 1200mg the first week, and was gonna go 600mg EW from there on...so when week 4 hit, my supplier wouldn't answer his phone calls...and here I am 20 days after still havn't been able to get a hang of him. I was forced to stop my cycle at week 4 and I didn't even have anything for PCT...


    So I'm 20 days after my cycle and my symptoms are horrible...here is what it looks like:

    -Blood preassure was 145, optimal is 120 and above 140 is high.

    -I feel tierd ALL day, I just wanna sleep, though strength hasn't dropped too much at the gym.

    -I usually sleep for 7 hours and a half, but every single night since 2 weeks into my cycle up untill now I get up ATLEAST once a night.

    -Random tingling/numbness in my hand at night or whenever I sleep/nap

    -Eyes feel so tierd and heavy all the time, I sometimes feel like something is pulsing inside my eye

    -face is bloated for some reason, I have water retention in my face

    -Mouth gets dry often

    NOTE: I don't have any problems getting it up though..so does this mean it didn't shut me down that hard since I was on for 4 weeks only?

    I'm almost 24..starting my last year of school very soon and I'm constantly tierd as ****. The puffy face and high BP is also bothering me a lot..anyone know whats going on? I thought tren ace/test prop would both b outta my system pretty fast..and I doubt EQ is causing this..as I know it has a long half life. Any input on this...?
    So whats wrong I have to those same symptoms when I do my cycle your blood pressure so high probably because you panicking. This is a norm for me and i don' t feel like shit don't know the big deal, its called side effects

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhen View Post
    Strong 1st post

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaGenetics View Post
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    Let me guess, this was your first cycle?
    First was Test E/D-bol

    Second was Test Prop with only 300mg EQ a week and bunk anadrol

    This was third


    I dont see what the problem was with the format of my cycle itself. I had tried EQ and prop before, so I only added one new compound and that was tren . And for people that keep telling me I should of had all my gear before hand, I don't understand do you guys not read my post? Why would I go spend $xy on a supplier I'm not a 100% sure of, when I can spend about $xy-y to make sure his gear is g2g. How would I know 3 weeks later he wouldn't answer his phone call...shit happens.
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    No price discussion.

    Edit your post please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayacrucis View Post
    First was Test E/D-bol

    Second was Test Prop with only 300mg EQ a week and bunk anadrol

    This was third


    I dont see what the problem was with the format of my cycle itself. I had tried EQ and prop before, so I only added one new compound and that was tren. And for people that keep telling me I should of had all my gear before hand, I don't understand do you guys not read my post? Why would I go spend balls on a supplier I'm not a 100% sure of, when I can spend about dick to make sure his gear is g2g. How would I know 3 weeks later he wouldn't answer his phone call...shit happens.

    Poor excuse. You should have at least bought all the test you would need, as well as PCT.
    And I don't understand what the point of this thread was, nor why it is still going. Your problem was that you went off without PCT. So get a SERM (which you did) and use it. Problem solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Poor excuse. You should have at least bought all the test you would need, as well as PCT.
    And I don't understand what the point of this thread was, nor why it is still going. Your problem was that you went off without PCT. So get a SERM (which you did) and use it. Problem solved.
    The point of the thread? I'm having symptoms that are unexplainable to me and I was wondering if anyone has a reason for them or if anyone has experienced the same symptoms. Instead the thread turned into this is why everyone should buy all their gear pre cycle. Thanks for the help.

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    give it 3 months ul be fine lol and smoke some mary itl help u sleep lol

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    All normal sides from what you listed. Everyone is just pointing out not to enter a cycle without an exit plan, i understand the money concerns but the stress to your endocrine system is more important. Your age should help you return to normal faster. Stay away from salts if your that concerned about the BP. and drop all uppers, no coffee red bull ect it will make the symptoms worse plus increase your anxiety level. just my 2cents

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    like he said Mary jane always helps you sleep and eat for that matter

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