critique my prop/npp cycle

[michael tyson]

I have 2 cycles under my belt. First was test 500mg/week and second was test/deca similar dosages. here is my proposed cycle.

weeks
1-8 prop/npp blend 100mg EOD
1-8 prop 50mg EOD
9 prop 150mg EOD

1-9 hcg 500iu 2x week

PCT(3 days after last test injection)
clomid 100/50/50/50
nolv 40/40/20/20


adex, letro, prami on hand in case of gyno.. I was also thinking of adding 50mg winny ED for the last 3 or 4 weeks. thoughts?

[HawaiianPride.]

Short and sweet, I like it. What is the reason for your taper during week 9? What is your BF and goals with this cycle?

[Knockout_Power]

what is your prop/npp blend dosed at for each compound? If its 50% ea I would say you should bump it up to try and get your NPP to around 450. This is where I just ran a cycle at and it worked very well.

wouldnt bother upping the prop week 9, only increases risk of sides.

-KP

[Knockout_Power]

As far as the winny goes, I would either save it or run it for 4-5 weeks if you have enough

[michael tyson]

Bodyfat is around 12% but i'm not even doing cardio at the moment.

The blend i am getting is 100mg prop/100mg npp per ml. so weeks 1-8 i will be taking 525mg prop and 350mg npp per week.

then week 9 will be just 525mg prop to give time for npp to get out of my system before i start pct. is that not the way to do it? so im not actually upping the prop at all in week 9.... its the exact same as with the blend plus the extra prop i will add to it in the previous weeks. hope this makes sense.

[HawaiianPride.]

You can run NPP and TP the same duration. They are both propionate esters, they drop the same time.

[michael tyson]

You can run NPP and TP the same duration. They are both propionate esters, they drop the same time.

fair enough... I will have a significant amount of the prop left over so I will probably just pin it until it runs out which will only be about a week longer than the npp. i see nothing wrong with running the prop an extra week since i'd like to run the winny weeks 6-9. thoughts?

[HawaiianPride.]

Either way is fine, just informing you that you don't "need" to cut the NPP short.

[michael tyson]

would love for some vets to chime in on this. if there is anything wrong with my dosages or hcq protocol, please let me know. is 350mg/week of NPP gonna be enough?

[HawaiianPride.]

HCG protocol looks fine.
I've ran it at 350mg PW, and had impressive results.

[D7M]

Looks fine to me.

350mg/NPP is fine.

I personally would run the prop a little longer than the NPP. They are both "prop" ester, but NPP still has a slightly longer ester than prop.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

I made a similar thread recently about NPP, and pretty much everyone said 450mg is the magic dose for a first time user of NPP

[michael tyson]

I made a similar thread recently about NPP, and pretty much everyone said 450mg is the magic dose for a first time user of NPP

Its to my understanding that 400-450mg of deca and 500-600 test is a pretty common bulking cycle. Isn't NPP and prop more 'potent' per ml since they use short esters? 350 NPP should be comparable to say 500mg of deca? no?

[HawaiianPride.]

The free equivalent per 100mg of NPP only beats ND by 3mg. Virtually the same in terms of potency.

[michael tyson]

I am already adding .5ml of prop to every shot to get the prop dosage above the NPP(the mix im getting is 100mg prop 100mg npp per ml). If I have to buy some NPP seperately then theres really no use in getting the mix in the first place except maybe price. is 525mg prop even sufficient or should I up both of my dosages? my last cycle was 600mg test E 400 deca per week....

[michael tyson]

ok, sticking with the cycle in my original post. thanks for the help guys.

[Knockout_Power]

Enjoy, you should really like this cycles resuts... keep a log, post the results.

-KP

[Aizen Sosuke]

Why not get another bottle of the blend and run 150mg/eod for each? I think the npp dose might be too low considering your previous cycle. Also I'd cut the hcg dose in half and only increase it if you still get atrophy

[michael tyson]

Why not get another bottle of the blend and run 150mg/eod for each? I think the npp dose might be too low considering your previous cycle. Also I'd cut the hcg dose in half and only increase it if you still get atrophy

crazy bro you read my mind! I added another bottle of the blend to my order today! that will allow me to pin 1.4ml EOD of the blend while keeping the .5ml prop EOD on top of it. that will put my dosages at 490mg npp EW and 540mg prop EW.

as for the hcq, i will read some more but im pretty sure my protocol is good.

[Aizen Sosuke]

I'm not saying your HCG protocol isn't right. I just like to start at the lowest dose when it comes to hcg. If you still have testicular function then remain at that dose. If you happen to experience atrophy then bump it up.

[glover]

I run prop/npp all the time and agree with Aizen. Cut the hcg in half. Consider using it thru 11 weeks. You won't even need clomid for this cycle nolva and hcg will sufice. Unless you are old!!

I like your increase "put my dosages at 490mg npp EW and 540mg prop EW." The hcg will have a positive effect on your natural test anyway (maybe).

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

bump?

[michael tyson]

after more critique the final cycle will end up being 490mg NPP and 665mg prop EW.... i should be a beast after this thing.

[Knockout_Power]

after more critique the final cycle will end up being 490mg NPP and 665mg prop EW.... i should be a beast after this thing.

Very similar to my last cycle, about 10% more of each compound... with the proper diet and training (and rest) you will really enjoy this cycle.

good luck

-KP