Shorter cycle?

[gmoney600rr]

I read a thread on here not too long ago they mentioned running a shorter cycle so that recovery would be easier on the body. What would be an appropriate lenght for a so called short cycle of test prop and tren ace or is it not a good idea? I know the gains probably won't be as ideal but I always have a tough time getting my sex drive and erection back during my pct.

[suttie]

8 weeks would be nice ,these short cycle yeiled better overall gains than long ester cycle imo.

[urbanbody]

What are your stats?

[gmoney600rr]

27years old
5'10
198lbs about 12%bf
2 previous cycles one of test e and the other was deca and test

want to gain some lean mass but the sexual sides hit me hard during pct just trying to figure out a good combo to do while running a test prop and tren ace cycle

[suttie]

What are your stats?

age -103

weight -689lbs

body fat% -1

years lifting -89

1000g protien per day with 400g carbs 200g fat

i have 68 cycle under my belt and never run a pct

love these ramdom stats posts ,i know there important in alot of cases but he,s just asking a genral question ,nothing on you budy am just in a strange mood today

[suttie]

27years old
5'10
198lbs about 12%bf
2 previous cycles one of test e and the other was deca and test

want to gain some lean mass but the sexual sides hit me hard during pct just trying to figure out a good combo to do while running a test prop and tren ace cycle

weeks 1-8 75mgs prop ed

weeks 1-7 50mgs tren a ed

weeks1-8 400iu hcg overy 4th day

3 days after last shot of prop start pct

nolvadex- 40/40/20/20

clomid 100/50/50/25

provion 50/50/50/50

[urbanbody]

weeks 1-8 75mgs prop ed

weeks 1-7 50mgs tren a ed

weeks1-8 400iu hcg overy 4th day

3 days after last shot of prop start pct

nolvadex- 40/40/20/20

clomid 100/50/50/25

provion 50/50/50/50

Suttie welcome to the board. I ask these questions because they are important. I don't just throw out random advice, I was trying to figure out what is best for this guy. I don't just throw out random compounds to people and expect they can get everyting you listed. Goodluck here at this website

[urbanbody]

Not sure I would do Tren on a 3rd cycle its alittle more for advanced individuals btw.

[suttie]

Suttie welcome to the board. I ask these questions because they are important. I don't just throw out random advice, I was trying to figure out what is best for this guy. I don't just throw out random compounds to people and expect they can get everyting you listed. Goodluck here at this website

i knowman am only kidding with you ,am not th op here by the way i was kust jokeing ,iknow stats are important buddy ,its cool.

ps- have been here for a few months .

[urbanbody]

i knowman am only kidding with you ,am not th op here by the way i was kust jokeing ,iknow stats are important buddy ,its cool.

ps- have been here for a few months .

Oh a few months!!!! my bad

[suttie]

Oh a few months!!!! my bad

well you came across as if i ony joined today ,most of my posts have been in the steroid forum so your ,welcome to the forum is a little on the late side.

[gmoney600rr]

Thanks suttie for the layout. If tren isn't reccommended on a third cycle then what would be reccommended for a lean mass cycle?

[suttie]

Thanks suttie for the layout. If tren isn't reccommended on a third cycle then what would be reccommended for a lean mass cycle?

npp would be nice .

[urbanbody]

You have a number of drugs that would be great. What do you have access to is more important. Give what you can get and we can put a good lean cycle out and then maybe you can head to the diet forum and get everything to make it a good one!

[gmoney600rr]

I can get all three types of test, dbol, tren ace, winstrol, equipoise, deca pretty much everything that you could want. My diet is on point, been dieting now super clean for a couple of months and plan on keeping it up for sure

[gmoney600rr]

Anything that you would reccommend I can get. I'm just looking for the best layout for my situation.

[urbanbody]

6 weeks

Test Prop 50mg ED
Anavar 50mg ED

Pct

This has always been great for I

[suttie]

6 weeks

Test Prop 50mg ED
Anavar 50mg ED

Pct

This has always been great for I

not bad ,i have run thabut at a slightly higher dose ,i found this beter

weeks 1-8 75mgs prop ed

weeks 1-7 50mgs npp eod

weeks 3-8 50/75mgs winny ed

[gmoney600rr]

What is npp?

And will these shorter cycles help from completely shutting me down and causing the sexual sides?

Thanks guys for all the help, I appreciate it

[suttie]

What is npp?

And will these shorter cycles help from completely shutting me down and causing the sexual sides?

Thanks guys for all the help, I appreciate it

Nandrolone Phenylpropionate its a fast acting deca bud ,exactly the same as nandrolone decanate but the short ester just like test prop is the short ester of test e/c/ect ,short esters dont help from compleately shuting you down but wjat they do give is a faster in and out of cycle time meaning your hpta is not shut down for as long as would be on long esters ,also if you see sides you can stop and they will be gone in a few days unlike long esters were you have to wait for the ester to clear (2-3 weeks in most cases) less bloat and better recovery from short esaters

short esters = lean and mean

long esters = big and bloated (imo)

[gmoney600rr]

Thanks suttie for the advice it's greatly appreciated

[gmoney600rr]

One more question...if I was to run test prop and anavar for the 8 weeks as mentioned above, what would be the best pct? Clomid and nolva? Or?

[suttie]

yes clomid and nolva

nolvadex 40/40/20/20

clomid 100/50/50/25

i wouldalso up the var dose to 75mgs ed

[marcus300]

Forget deca and tren in a short cycle if your concern is recovery, stick with priming the body before the cycle for 6-8 weeks then hit a test only cycle and may be an added oral depending on your history, with any short cycle you need to understanding about priming the body read up on my thread, see link below