what can I run just after cycle?

**Bleeze** · 08-22-2010, 08:32 AM

I just ran a heavy stack for 13 weeks. with 4 weeks of proper PCT. Im am just finished the PCt. What are some gear I can use for bulk or cutting, that wont shut my natural test down. I know I can run CLen with t3. And HGH.

***D7M*** · 08-22-2010, 08:59 AM

of those three, I'd only go with HGH.

you don't want to be cutting hard just after PCT.

and you definitely don't want to be using T3 without AAS.

**Bleeze** · 08-22-2010, 03:42 PM

i belive you ,but why? Id like to understand.

***D7M*** · 08-22-2010, 03:49 PM

It's foolish to try to cut during or just after PCT. You want to try to hold on to your gains as much as possible, and cutting, which usually involves reducing caloric intake or increasing cardio won't help you retain what you gained on cycle.

As far as the T3, yes it will burn fat, but it isn't selective. It will burn through muscle too without AAS. Search here for "cytomel " for more information.

Finally, this is the second thread I've seen today asking about "what drugs can I take...I just finished PCT."

Just recover guys. Eat. Work hard in the gym. And get plenty of rest.

Don't worry about always having to "have" something in you.

**gymfu** · 08-22-2010, 03:50 PM

Good question, I've never heard that. I'm trying to cut now with hgh, t4, and clen . It's working! I love it. Think I'm down to 12% or 13%.

**gymfu** · 08-22-2010, 03:51 PM

Hey D7M is t4 going to be easier on loosing muscle?

***D7M*** · 08-22-2010, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by gymfu

Hey D7M is t4 going to be easier on loosing muscle?

Honestly can't say. I've never used T4.

Why don't you start a thread on it...

**gymfu** · 08-22-2010, 04:05 PM

Ok, sorry, that question prob belongs in the hgh and peptides section.

**HawaiianPride.** · 08-22-2010, 04:13 PM

T4 converts to T3 in the body so I would assume it has the same effect.

**Bleeze** · 08-22-2010, 04:39 PM

yea I know just get off the drugs but atleast im trying to do it the right way, everyone I know just cycles all year, lol. so If I cycled for 13 weeks plus 4 weeks pct, I can g oon in 17 weeks?

**HawaiianPride.** · 08-22-2010, 04:42 PM

If everything checks out on your blood work post-PCT, then you can cycle again.

**crosby87** · 08-22-2010, 08:28 PM

There is nothing you can run aas related that won't shut you down. Even 200/wk hrt will.

The T3/T4 even clen without test will "eat" you muscles away.

They do say time on = time off. Do I go by that NO...lol

I'd say the right way is be patient and wait a few more weeks.

But if you going to go back on imo you should of never came off and just stayed on.

How old are you? Maybe look into HRT.

**Bleeze** · 08-23-2010, 07:28 PM

whats HRT? Im 28. So your saying wait a few weeks maybe longer get test levels tested and I can go on heavy again? bc I kind go by the rule of thumb only do it once a year but when I do go on heavy. I like to do my cycle in spring/summer. but maybe if I can run a mini shorter cycle somwhere in middle. after coming off cycle there is nothing to look forward to, no matter how hard I try im not gonna get stronger bigger or more lean. Im just working out to loose less. U know what i mean.