Proposed 2nd Cycle.. Lets get wobbley

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08-22-2010, 09:45 AM
cherrydrpepper

Proposed 2nd Cycle.. Lets get wobbley

Stats: 29 , 170 lbs, 5' 8", bf unsure but fairly lean with better abs than most lifters. Previous cycling history: 1 cycle test/dbol. Stats were all over the board before the cycle. I think at my lightest I was 168 lbs but looked like a stick. After cycle in the last two weeks I have had women try to touch my bicep, trap and abs so I know my shit is getting hot. I am similar weight right now but look much more muscular. During cycle I hit a weight of 195 lbs. Cut after the cycle / ran clen.

Goals: vanity. I want to look awesome like Haz someday lol.

Proposed Cycle:
4 months (16 weeks)

2 wks clen at 50 mcg ed
2 wks S4 at 50 mg ed
2 wks dbol 10 mg ed (might be able to get more not sure yet)
Test C 800 mg wk
Deca 300 mg wk
(Accutane, Creatine, B12, Vitamin C, several vitamins)
(Nolva 20 ed. I have too much Nolva on hand and it is going to expire before I can use it all, so I figure why not use some while on cycle to reduce chances of gyno. PCT will be standard / aggressive nolva clomid)

Diet: I want to aim for 3500 clean calories. I want to do as much cardio as I desire. I will probably try to keep the cardio high enough that I don't get noticeable fat increase. I love being lean it has raised my confidence a lot. When I hug women they can feel that my stomach and back are both firm to give an example.
08-22-2010, 09:50 AM
HawaiianPride.

So this is your second cycle?
08-22-2010, 09:54 AM
cherrydrpepper

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawaiianPride.

So this is your second cycle?

I didn't say I am a genius all powerful aas god and know everything lol . Gonna go out on a limb and guess you think its a bit much.
08-22-2010, 09:57 AM
GymHero

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrydrpepper

I didn't say I am a genius all powerful aas god and know everything lol . Gonna go out on a limb and guess you think its a bit much.

You read my mind lol. If you got great results from your 1st cycle why not just do test again and maybe throw in some tbol instead of dbol?
08-22-2010, 10:02 AM
HawaiianPride.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrydrpepper

I didn't say I am a genius all powerful aas god and know everything lol . Gonna go out on a limb and guess you think its a bit much.

Neither am I :p

Yeah bro cut it back a bit. Your already going over gram all together. At this rate you'll be up to 3 grams by your 4th cycle. Only increase your dosages from the previous cycle if absolutely necessary. This will enable you to get away with as little as you can for a longer time, reducing side effects.
08-22-2010, 11:08 AM
dec11

is 10mg dbol a typo? very low mate if not, also 300mg deca is fairly low also. id personally drop the test dose down and up the deca
08-22-2010, 12:07 PM
cherrydrpepper

Quote:

Originally Posted by dec11

is 10mg dbol a typo? very low mate if not, also 300mg deca is fairly low also. id personally drop the test dose down and up the deca

I thought higher deca amounts risk deca dick. My one friend actually had to cut his back; i should ask him what he was running when he started going limp. The dbol is just some stuff i have sitting around.. figured I would mix it into the chili so to speak.
08-22-2010, 12:44 PM
dec11

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrydrpepper

I thought higher deca amounts risk deca dick. My one friend actually had to cut his back; i should ask him what he was running when he started going limp. The dbol is just some stuff i have sitting around.. figured I would mix it into the chili so to speak.

nope on the deca, as long as you have enough supplementary test in your system, id go for at least 200mg pw test personally although ive heard of guys using 100mg pw test with deca, it doesnt have to be astronomical just cos your on deca, 10mg dbol will do little, im on 20mg pd at the moment and its just giving a nice, sides free, mild kick. why not go 500mg deca and 500mg test?
08-22-2010, 01:13 PM
cherrydrpepper

Quote:

Originally Posted by dec11

nope on the deca, as long as you have enough supplementary test in your system, id go for at least 200mg pw test personally although ive heard of guys using 100mg pw test with deca, it doesnt have to be astronomical just cos your on deca, 10mg dbol will do little, im on 20mg pd at the moment and its just giving a nice, sides free, mild kick. why not go 500mg deca and 500mg test?

Ok I will up the deca. The test amount I am still debating with myself. Is that bro science that test has to be higher than deca?
08-22-2010, 01:36 PM
D7M

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrydrpepper

Ok I will up the deca. The test amount I am still debating with myself. Is that bro science that test has to be higher than deca?

Yes, that's what he's saying: you don't need to run the test higher (at any ratio) than the test to avoid ED issues.

You don't need to up your test dose that much for your second cycle.

Remember: always use the least amount of drugs to accomplish your goals.
08-22-2010, 02:55 PM
Knockout_Power

DP, if you an the test and deca somewhere around 5-600 ea you wll get great results. Personlly, I would stick closer to the 500 range myself. I didnt add a 2nd compond till my 3rd cycle, just test the first 2.