My first Cycle - How should i workout?

[zuppah]

Starting my first cycle with steroids. Im going to use Testo E and Deca.
What i wonder is how i should train to gain as much muscle volum i can. How many sets each muscle?

Can i get help to set up a training program??

I want to train all my muscles atleast 2 times a week..

I can train all days except Saturday and Sunday.

[D7M]

out of curiosity:

age?
height?
weight?
body fat%?
years training?
planned pct?

[zuppah]

out of curiosity:

age?
height?
weight?
body fat%?
years training?
planned pct?

Age: 18 , ( soon 19)
Height: 187cm
weight: 176 lbs / 80 kg
body fat : around 12% i guess
I have been training clean for about 1.5 years.

My planned PCT i have no idea.. what is normal to use while ur on Testo E and Deca Durabolin?

[D7M]

Have you started the cycle yet?

[zuppah]

Have you started the cycle yet?

No i havent ,, im buying the stuffs this week i hope.

[D7M]

Don't buy it.

Don't start the cycle.

Trust me, I'm saying this to help you.

You're waaay too young, and there's a high chance you'll end up doing damage to yourself.

Even if you were older, you need to do some serious, serious research.

You need to know about PCT and have it ready before you even start a cycle.

[gregghowie]

mmmm here comes the fury!
Young.
Maybe havnt been treaining as long as guys would reccomend.
Not maybe at the weight you should be.
Running multiple drugs on your first cycle.
No PCT.

I am not experienced enough to comment but you might be looking down the barrel here mate.
Good luck anyways

[zuppah]

mmmm here comes the fury!
Young.
Maybe havnt been treaining as long as guys would reccomend.
Not maybe at the weight you should be.
Running multiple drugs on your first cycle.
No PCT.

I am not experienced enough to comment but you might be looking down the barrel here mate.
Good luck anyways

I am getting a PCT with my tesot and deca,,, the dealer ism fixing everything for me.. besides ive got mates that has done ttesto e and deca and they have done great with it.. I got a lot of friends to help me with it.. just need to know how i should train.. and what pct is normal for testo and deca?? nolva??

ive been training for 1.5 years clean n ow. that is enough its soo hard to gain muscles now.. i dont get any longer.. stats :

Bench: 286 lbs
DL: 400 lbs
Squat: 330
MP: 154

im goi9ng to start testo and Deca cycle anyways

[themoreyouknow]

you're really light for your height dude...you dont need aas. you can easily put that weight on without aas

[3ebmike]

Bro.. seriously.. as someone who considered doing this when I was 18, i'm telling you.. dont. i know you're looking to see results fast but just get your diet and workout plan in scheme with what your goals are and you'll see great results. there is no need to be running this at your age. you realize you're at your PEAK of your testosterone levels. why risk shutting that down man? you've got so much flowing through you right now, plenty to build quality muscle. you need to wait atleast three years man. it will pay off. if you're minds already made up, you're making the wrong choice for a short term fix.

[taboo-09]

you need to train alot longer than 1.5 yrs to strenghten your tendons and ligs.......... bro you still have alot more growth potential doing it NATURAL.......... save your time and money eat clean, lift hard and heavy, and take otc supps for now. we are here to help and advise. we dont want anyone to hurt themselfs or do permanent damage. if you have questions. by all means ask away.

[zuppah]

you need to train alot longer than 1.5 yrs to strenghten your tendons and ligs.......... bro you still have alot more growth potential doing it NATURAL.......... save your time and money eat clean, lift hard and heavy, and take otc supps for now. we are here to help and advise. we dont want anyone to hurt themselfs or do permanent damage. if you have questions. by all means ask away.

i do

i dont care... looks like i gotta make a new account and pretend ive been training for 5 years so u guys will help me,, cus i will start anyways.. i got deca and testo e + nolva at home now.

[matt77]

i do

i dont care... looks like i gotta make a new account and pretend ive been training for 5 years so u guys will help me,, cus i will start anyways.. i got deca and testo e + nolva at home now.

Young and stupid comes to mind

Bro you know they track IP addresses so making a new account will just make it worse. Don't listen to the people on here there dumb, just listen to your dealer who is the shitz. He has your health in mind! You have no idea what your doing that obvious. You don't know how to train, what PCT to take, probably don't know what the compounds your taking even do.

Why don't you just read some of the threads at the top of this forum and let your ego rest.

[GymHero]

Where to start... I won't even bring up your age.

1. You are running more than 1 compound on your 1st cycle, if you start having severe sides how will you know if it is the test or deca? You won't and you will have to completely stop your cycle! This is why it is recommended to run a test only cycle at first and see how your body responds.

2. At your current weight and height it looks to me you don't know how to diet. You need to eat to get big and to stay big. Say you gained 20 lbs on this cycle how would you keep it if you don't eat like someone who is 20 lbs heavier? You don't, you will just lose it all.

3. You do not know what pct is. Pct is the most important part of your cycle. Without this you are destined for a disaster. Pct helps you keep your gains you just made and gets your natty test back up and running ASAP. Without this there is also a chance you will NEVER recover.

4. You are asking us for advice on a training routine and saying you will work each muscle atleast x2 a week. This is over training and you will do more damage and probably lose size if anything. the key to getting big is food and rest. Weights and AAS only play a small role gaining size. Also sounds like you have minimal training exp, you are at a very high risk of getting injured in the gym. Your body will not be able to handle your new found weight gain and this will also set you way back on your goals.



The best advice anyone will give you is to help you out with your diet/ training routine. A great diet + great training regimen = great gains. You have so much room to gain naturaly, wait a few more years and do some RESEARCH. You might not agree now but you will be thanking us all later if you take this advice.

Good luck


-GH-

[zuppah]

Where to start... I won't even bring up your age.

1. You are running more than 1 compound on your 1st cycle, if you start having severe sides how will you know if it is the test or deca? You won't and you will have to completely stop your cycle! This is why it is recommended to run a test only cycle at first and see how your body responds.

2. At your current weight and height it looks to me you don't know how to diet. You need to eat to get big and to stay big. Say you gained 20 lbs on this cycle how would you keep it if you don't eat like someone who is 20 lbs heavier? You don't, you will just lose it all.

3. You do not know what pct is. Pct is the most important part of your cycle. Without this you are destined for a disaster. Pct helps you keep your gains you just made and gets your natty test back up and running ASAP. Without this there is also a chance you will NEVER recover.

4. You are asking us for advice on a training routine and saying you will work each muscle atleast x2 a week. This is over training and you will do more damage and probably lose size if anything. the key to getting big is food and rest. Weights and AAS only play a small role gaining size. Also sounds like you have minimal training exp, you are at a very high risk of getting injured in the gym. Your body will not be able to handle your new found weight gain and this will also set you way back on your goals.



The best advice anyone will give you is to help you out with your diet/ training routine. A great diet + great training regimen = great gains. You have so much room to gain naturaly, wait a few more years and do some RESEARCH. You might not agree now but you will be thanking us all later if you take this advice.

Good luck


-GH-

Ur telling me that training ur muscles 2 times a werak is overtraining? retard.-.. what about all the " vhole body workouts" ... u mean the only thing u can train is 1 muscle a week? i tryed this .. it sucked.. i have to train my muscles 2-3 times a weak for best results..

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

Why ask for help, then when it is offered you just shoot it down? I know of a couple good hrt docs I'll hook you up with after your dealer "fixes you up".

[ghettoboyd]

looks like you know it all buddie so why are you asking those with real life knowledge and experience to help, wtf do we know right....your 18 and on top of the world...your indestuctible i know i was once 18 to...now 20 years later knowing what i know now i realized what an ass i was back then, and one day when your staring at your dissfunctional dick and lack of muscle you will realize this too...so go ahaed with your unreasurched "ima get huge" master plan and we will all look forward to your "sorry guys i didnt heed your advise and now im fuked" thread...should be fukin stellar....good luck, your going to need it...

[-Ender-]

Where to start... I won't even bring up your age.

1. You are running more than 1 compound on your 1st cycle, if you start having severe sides how will you know if it is the test or deca? You won't and you will have to completely stop your cycle! This is why it is recommended to run a test only cycle at first and see how your body responds.

2. At your current weight and height it looks to me you don't know how to diet. You need to eat to get big and to stay big. Say you gained 20 lbs on this cycle how would you keep it if you don't eat like someone who is 20 lbs heavier? You don't, you will just lose it all.

3. You do not know what pct is. Pct is the most important part of your cycle. Without this you are destined for a disaster. Pct helps you keep your gains you just made and gets your natty test back up and running ASAP. Without this there is also a chance you will NEVER recover.

4. You are asking us for advice on a training routine and saying you will work each muscle atleast x2 a week. This is over training and you will do more damage and probably lose size if anything. the key to getting big is food and rest. Weights and AAS only play a small role gaining size. Also sounds like you have minimal training exp, you are at a very high risk of getting injured in the gym. Your body will not be able to handle your new found weight gain and this will also set you way back on your goals.



The best advice anyone will give you is to help you out with your diet/ training routine. A great diet + great training regimen = great gains. You have so much room to gain naturaly, wait a few more years and do some RESEARCH. You might not agree now but you will be thanking us all later if you take this advice.

Good luck


-GH-

SOLID ADVICE RIGHT THERE

Ur telling me that training ur muscles 2 times a werak is overtraining? retard.-.. what about all the " vhole body workouts" ... u mean the only thing u can train is 1 muscle a week? i tryed this .. it sucked.. i have to train my muscles 2-3 times a weak for best results..

Listen Zuppy, your getting the straight shit here. We don't candycoat a damn thing. Take the advice and hang around awhile. You will learn what you need to know.

Might want to start by apologizing to the guys you are pissing off: then go start a thread in the new male members section to introduce yourself. Follow that with starting a thread in the diet section asking for help.

[Jahcuree]

Zuppah dont mean to bash or anything but your def not ready. Sounds like you dont even know the basics of lifting / recovery let alone diet and anabolics.

Keep lifting for a few months (at the very least) and get your diet solid so that you can see how much you can gain naturally if done right

[JaseMaris]

Preamble- I'm a newb, don't take my word for it. Read threads here google etc that's what I've been doing. But this is my point also. I know I'm not ready for this yet... and I know more then you do. Please read on if your still visiting this site...

I've been reading for weeks about this and posting a little. Let me just say I'm 39, been working out since I was like 15 years old off and on to stay in shape look good and stay fit. I have good genes so it don't take much, and I wouldn't call it "training" 95% of the people here do.

I know where you are coming from. You have your mind set on this and want the gains in strength and mass, period. But your pumping chems into your body. It's going to play havok with you body chemistry, hormones, muscles etc. PLEASE!!! Take a week and read as much as you can before you do this to yourself. I've been reading these info threads twice a day for an hour each time or more, if I don't get something and spend time googling for more info.

All that being said... Info you'll get from me, WHO is not a body builder or trainer or fitness buff even -that I already know that you don't and your ready to shoot up.... I'm not knocking you, just trying to let you see what someone who thinks they know next to nothing about this knows that you don't.

WORKOUT. Muscle gains and recovery.
---I've always done a spilt workout 3days on 1day off. Chest/Tri Back/Bi Legs/Abs then a day off. Always. That gives your muscles a full 72hours for recovery. For a medium to intense workout being as young as you are or even for me that works fine but, BUT! When your bodybuilding, looking for massive gains with gear pumping through your system you will be lifting more weight harder and faster then ever before. Your muscles will need more time to recover and BUILD NEW TISSUE. 72 hours isn't enough. When I first learned this I was upset but what made me feel better was that the the workout simulates your muscle growth the recovery is when your building. If you work the muscle to soon you will not NOT gain mass or strength. NOT NOT NOT. I don't care how hard you work out. One more note on recovery time. It's not when your muscles stop hurting/being sore that they're recovered. It's 24-48 hours after that. Listen to this Pros and Work out hard as hell 3 days a week give you muscles time to build and read the diet section like 5 times, Hell cut and paste and you'll probably gain 25lbs your first cycle... but you wont keep it if your PCT sucks.

Diet...
Along with not giving your muscle time to grow and not making any gains naturally it's prolly because you've been eating all wrong. Even if you eating healthy as hell your probably not eating enough, the right times of day, or the right things pre work out and post work out. My head was spinning when I read some of the sample diets... they're awesome by the way.

Things I've learned about PCT...
--- That 25 pounds you just gained will be gone if you don't know what your doing here. Or much worse. Read the threads. It's a huge deal. 12 weeks hundreds of dollars and your self estem all down the drain if you don't do it right... Or do it wrong from the start and 15 pounds of that 25lb gain will be water retention and bloat and/or gyno... Please read dude.

Whats all this going to cost you??? You have everything already. Take 2 weeks and read as much as you can.

Anyone feel free to correct whatever you'd like here if I got anything wrong.