Friend just went to the hospital..

**james_trudee** · 08-24-2010, 11:09 PM

My friend was doing his usual injetions 200 mg/week tren 400mg/test e. After adminstering his shots he decided to pop 2 viagras before seeing his girl. Within 30 minutes he started to look really pale and was feeling chest pains.

Did he just have a heart attack and was this because he was stupid enough to take viagras after shots?

I havn't been able to contact him but his family assured me that he was okay.

**darkcrayz** · 08-24-2010, 11:23 PM

the viagra caused the issue not the test.

**stack_it** · 08-24-2010, 11:29 PM

Did he aspirate before injecting? If he hit vein and the tren and test entered the bloodstream it would have his heart racing and he would feel dizzy possibly nauseated.

I did this once with 200mg test e injection and thought I was gonna have a heart attack for sure. That's why aspirating is so important.

**stack_it** · 08-24-2010, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by darkcrayz

the viagra caused the issue not the test.

What makes you say this and how could any of us be sure with such little info? We have no idea if the tren and test are ugl or pharma. If it was ugl it could have been contaminated or it could be completely unrelated to aas altogether.

**warchild** · 08-24-2010, 11:33 PM

if he injected into a vein i doubt he would have gone 30min later to the hospital.

**stack_it** · 08-24-2010, 11:46 PM

It took about thirty minutes or so for me to feel any effects. I injected right before going to the gym and about ten minutes into my workout I started feeling the effects.

Op let us know what the doctor says it will be interesting to know what caused it. That is if he is honest with the dr bout what he's using

**urbanbody** · 08-24-2010, 11:46 PM

Viagra. Geez can't imagine 2 at a time like that. Wtf was he mad at her? :/

**warchild** · 08-24-2010, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by stack_it

It took about thirty minutes or so for me to feel any effects. I injected right before going to the gym and about ten minutes into my workout I started feeling the effects.

Op let us know what the doctor says it will be interesting to know what caused it. That is if he is honest with the dr bout what he's using

ive never injected into a vein but i was with a friend who did into his quad, he felt it immediatly since its your bloodstream, luckily he had done it before so he knew what to expect. the symptoms lasted for about 10 minutes

**3ebmike** · 08-25-2010, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by warchild

ive never injected into a vein but i was with a friend who did into his quad, he felt it immediatly since its your bloodstream, luckily he had done it before so he knew what to expect. the symptoms lasted for about 10 minutes

how exactly did he even do this? was he not deep enough? did he not aspirate ?

**warchild** · 08-25-2010, 12:16 AM

did not aspirate

**stack_it** · 08-25-2010, 12:31 AM

Originally Posted by warchild

ive never injected into a vein but i was with a friend who did into his quad, he felt it immediatly since its your bloodstream, luckily he had done it before so he knew what to expect. the symptoms lasted for about 10 minutes

Yeah I'm thinking maybe I nicked a vein and it seeped in. I don't know if that's possible or not. Maybe I had a mild heart attack lol.

**SnaX** · 08-25-2010, 01:53 AM

Originally Posted by darkcrayz

the viagra caused the issue not the test.

I second this for sure.

I don't see where UGL or Pharm Grade gear plays a factor, especially if this was his "usual injetions" as the OP said. Being that he has been consistently shooting this gear, and is just NOW having a problem, I would rule out UGL/Pharm, and rule out contaminated gear.

I just don't understand where the logic comes from.
After numerous shots, to suddenly blame this issue on one shot? ESPECIALLY when there is VIAGRA involved and he's taking two pills.

Yeah, hit a vein, get dizzy/palpitation/perhaps a little cough, all will be okay in time.
But going to the hospital? Sounds more serious than hitting a vein.

Sounds like some viagra did him wrong.
Don't be so quick to blame the gear. We know nothing else about his friend. He could be a closet junky, but because he shot some gear and took some other sh!t, lets blame the gear? Sh!t people...

**peachfuzz** · 08-25-2010, 01:56 AM

agreed it was likely the viagra rather then AAS related. Or perhaps the culmination of both.

**stack_it** · 08-25-2010, 06:21 AM

Originally Posted by SnaX

I second this for sure.

I don't see where UGL or Pharm Grade gear plays a factor, especially if this was his "usual injetions" as the OP said. Being that he has been consistently shooting this gear, and is just NOW having a problem, I would rule out UGL/Pharm, and rule out contaminated gear.

I just don't understand where the logic comes from.
After numerous shots, to suddenly blame this issue on one shot? ESPECIALLY when there is VIAGRA involved and he's taking two pills.

Yeah, hit a vein, get dizzy/palpitation/perhaps a little cough, all will be okay in time.
But going to the hospital? Sounds more serious than hitting a vein.

Sounds like some viagra did him wrong.
Don't be so quick to blame the gear. We know nothing else about his friend. He could be a closet junky, but because he shot some gear and took some other sh!t, lets blame the gear? Sh!t people...

If you notice in my second post I said it could be completely unrelated. I said it could be The contaminated gear because he never said how long he's been doing his "regular" injections.

Hitting a vein could easily cause symptoms that would cause someone to go to the hospital IMO. There are many paranoid users who look for things that may be wrong with them and over react. That's not that out there.

I agree everyone shouldn't jump to blame aas but the op leads us to believe that these are the only two factors. He said nothing about rec drug use or prior health history.

So do be so quick to turn a blind eye to dangers of aas SHIT! (

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**shafts basson** · 08-25-2010, 08:33 AM

heart attacks are sudden but should give clear warning signs such as numbness in left arm, pain in the jaw, and tightness in chest.

Sounds to me like sides of viagra not the AAS

From experience... if u shoot something into a vein, it quickly pumps through you. If he hit a vein directly he would have felt that almost instantly, and if he nicked it, he wouldn't feel that bad.

Viagra sides and he panicked because he was injecting something into his body. lol ive been there

**james_trudee** · 08-25-2010, 08:34 AM

He was in his 8th week doing a total of 400mg/week tren 800mg/week test. I watched him check for blood to when he did his shot. This is his 4th cycle and hes never had any problem like this.

I just talked to him and he failed to tell me a couple of things. He is also running CLEN and T3. So im guessing those drugs plus the viagra did the trick.

Heres his stats for extra info.

Age- 23
Height- 6'2
Weight- 245
BF- 12%

**shafts basson** · 08-25-2010, 08:37 AM

Im guessing he is alright now?

Did he tell his doc all this?

**awms** · 08-25-2010, 08:40 AM

You friend took 2 viagra???? thats his problem right there...I take one 100mg tab and it makes me red, my heart beat raises, and I get slightly light headed...50mg (half a tab) is enouph for most men to get rock hard and stay hard!

200mg is insane! that would make an 80 year old man hard for days lol stupid stupid!

**james_trudee** · 08-25-2010, 08:53 AM

Lol that stack definetly cant be good on your heart:

Tren , Test-e, Clen , T3, viagras everyday (Y)

He probablly takes around 6 viagras a week. He pops those like skittles.

**HawaiianPride.** · 08-25-2010, 08:57 AM

You'll know soon enough what the culprit was. No need to speculate any further. Keep us updated man, I'm sure plenty of us will be interested.

**maxdose** · 08-25-2010, 09:00 AM

My money is on the viagra, if he nicked a vein he would have known pretty quickly after the pulled the needle out- usually you get alot of blood, and you get a funny taste in the back of your mouth-with tren you cough like shit and sometimes thats happened to me with regular test and other anabolics depending on the carriers and diluents in the mix.
I have high BP and cant even touch viagra-if he had any elevated BP and dropped 2 of those it would seem his BP would have jumped super high quickly.

**AlphaGenetics** · 08-25-2010, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by stack_it

It took about thirty minutes or so for me to feel any effects. I injected right before going to the gym and about ten minutes into my workout I started feeling the effects.

Op let us know what the doctor says it will be interesting to know what caused it. That is if he is honest with the dr bout what he's using

When I nicked a vein shooting tren A I felt it in my lungs immediatly. You dont feel it half and hour later.

**AlphaGenetics** · 08-25-2010, 09:48 AM

Too much viagra can kill you. There was a case of this on the show "One thousand ways to die" I think the guy had injested around 600mg's in an hour.

**Bonaparte** · 08-25-2010, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by stack_it

It took about thirty minutes or so for me to feel any effects. I injected right before going to the gym and about ten minutes into my workout I started feeling the effects.

Was this with Tren ?

**MMArmour** · 08-25-2010, 10:03 AM

i never aspirate . ever. and ive never once had any issues

**Knockout_Power** · 08-25-2010, 10:06 AM

why did he pop 2 vaigras? isnt normal dose like half a pill? If he is already on tren and blood pressure is high then over abusing viagra is really bad, it can increase BP as well. Should subside within 24 hours but this is very serious, you dont fvck with high BP.

**stack_it** · 08-25-2010, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

Was this with Tren?

No it was test e. I guess it could have been unrelated to the test but it just all seemed to point to that since it hadn't happened before or since.

On the original subject. Isn't clen hard on the heart as it is let alone with Viagra increasing blood flow and all?

**3ebmike** · 08-25-2010, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by MMArmour

i never aspirate. ever. and ive never once had any issues

you're dodgin bullets! takes like two seconds man why not just do it?

**dec11** · 08-25-2010, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by MMArmour

i never aspirate. ever. and ive never once had any issues

thts crazy, you'll hit a vein sometime mate. any noobs reading this, ASPIRATE !!!!!!!

**MMArmour** · 08-25-2010, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by dec11

thts crazy, you'll hit a vein sometime mate. any noobs reading this, ASPIRATE!!!!!!!

True true! Sorry bro! Dont wanna come stroll up in the Q&A you spend alot of time keeping full of safe knowledge and wreck it with my carelessness haha.

ya newbs!!!! ASPIRATE !

**MMArmour** · 08-25-2010, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by 3ebmike

you're dodgin bullets! takes like two seconds man why not just do it?

Well...ive done one single cycle where i aspirated. My very first one. And after not once drawing back blood..i gave it up.

Youre calling "dodging bullets" when i have a 100% success rate? Odds are a bit too good for it to suggest chance having too much of a part in it. Knockout is probably right. eventually i might nail a vein. Shit who knows. This whole convo might give me a change of heart and ill start aspirating again! haha

**dec11** · 08-25-2010, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by MMArmour

True true! Sorry bro! Dont wanna come stroll up in the Q&A you spend alot of time keeping full of safe knowledge and wreck it with my carelessness haha.

ya newbs!!!! ASPIRATE!

just curious, but why not do it? only a second of your injection time

**Neevor** · 08-25-2010, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by urbanbody

viagra. Geez can't imagine 2 at a time like that. Wtf was he mad at her? :/

lol!

**e.nergie** · 08-25-2010, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by james_trudee

Lol that stack definetly cant be good on your heart:

Tren , Test-e, Clen , T3, viagras everyday (Y)

He probablly takes around 6 viagras a week. He pops those like skittles.

why.... viagra's are useless unless u actually need them or get whiskey dick and carry them around as backup

question about aspirating (ive never done it either) if i draw blood do i change the needle and what do i do with the blood if it enters the syringe?

**shennen** · 08-26-2010, 01:12 AM

Viagra. Geez can't imagine 2 at a time like that. Wtf was he mad at her? :/

Hope your friend is doing well, but this is priceless.

**SnaX** · 08-26-2010, 01:14 AM

Lol I think this thread just turned into an intervention for MMArmour and his non-aspirating ways. hahaha

We can help you bro! You just have to want the help. Don't throw your life away hehehehe

**SnaX** · 08-26-2010, 01:18 AM

In conclusion, the OP's friend sounds like he really enjoys putting a lot of crap in his body.
Simply drinking enough water can kill someone. With enough of the damage he is doing to his body/heart, I'll say it's a matter of time before one of the two gives out.