Need advice for 3rd cycle

**jcosley** · 08-26-2010, 12:32 PM

Age: 29
Weight: 233
BF: 13%

Hey guys...I've been on here before, just had alot of time off between my last cycle so I haven't really been back. Here's a quick overview of my first two cycles that I've had great success with.

1st cycle: M-drol (starter) + Test E for 12 weeks (nolva/clomid pct)

2nd cycle: Test Cyp + Tren Enh (test for 4 weeks before tren and 2 weeks after tren) for a long 14-15 week cycle (cant remember)
***Also ran T3 throughout this cycle as well***

I had great results in fat loss and muscle gain with both cycles, the 2nd was insanely good...lost a great amount of bodyfat while maintaining muscle.

Anwyays, for my 3rd cycle I wanna be shredded and gain mass at the same time. I have Test Cyp + Tren Enh + Winstrol (100 tabs x 50 mg/tab)

So my question is, what do you think of this...

Week 1-4: Test cyp (500 a week) + 50-100 mgs a day Winstrol
Week 4-12: Test cyp + Tren Enhante
Week 12-16: Test cyp (500 a week) + 50-100 mgs a day Winstrol

Any thoughts on this?

Diet is/has been in check since my first cycle.
(was 272 and am now leaner 233 lbs)

***D7M*** · 08-26-2010, 12:42 PM

remind me of your height again?

also how did you check your body fat, friend?

**jcosley** · 08-26-2010, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by D7M

remind me of your height again?
also how did you check your body fat, friend?

6'4'' - height.

I get it checked every month at the ymca, with whatever 8-10 point caliber? No idea, all I know it they take skin fold measurements and do some calculation.

**HawaiianPride.** · 08-26-2010, 12:50 PM

What dose are you running the 19nor? Ancillaries/PCT?

**jcosley** · 08-26-2010, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by HawaiianPride.

What dose are you running the 19nor? Ancillaries/PCT?

The Winstrol comes in tabs of 50 mgs ....so I was planning on taking either 50-100mg everyday. (I also have liver support, will take daily)

PCT: Nolva, Clomid, DAA, Activate Xtreme and Post Cycle Support

**Sector** · 08-26-2010, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by jcosley

The Winstrol comes in tabs of 50 mgs ....so I was planning on taking either 50-100mg everyday. (I also have liver support, will take daily)

PCT: Nolva, Clomid, DAA, Activate Xtreme and Post Cycle Support

Winstrol is not a 19 nor... He was talking about the tren .

**HawaiianPride.** · 08-26-2010, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Sector

Winstrol is not a 19 nor... He was talking about the tren.

Bingo^^ Personally don't think your ready to run Tren when you don't understand what kind of compound it is, lol.

Also, things to combat prolactin/erse's ect..

**scotty51312** · 08-26-2010, 01:11 PM

Id throw in glucosamine as a supp for your joints if you're gonna take 8 weeks total of winstrol

**jcosley** · 08-26-2010, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by Sector

Winstrol is not a 19 nor... He was talking about the tren.

Woops!!! Sorry about that, totally misread that. I will run 400 mgs a week. Last cycle I cut down the Test cyp (400-450 a week) while I'm doing both.

So dosage per shot would be: 200 mgs Tren /200 mgs test cyp
(Twice a week, every monday and thursday)

**HawaiianPride.** · 08-26-2010, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by scotty51312

Id throw in glucosamine as a supp for your joints if you're gonna take 8 weeks total of winstrol

There are far more effective supplements for Glucosamine out there. It's only effective for the joints via IV. It is good for the immune system orally though.

Adequan
Aprotinin
Cynatine
Hyaluronic Acid
Synvisc
Super cissus rx
PrimaForce Cissus

All good^

**jcosley** · 08-26-2010, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by HawaiianPride.

Bingo^^ Personally don't think your ready to run Tren when you don't understand what kind of compound it is, lol.

Also, things to combat prolactin/erse's ect..

Misread it, sorry. I've already taken Tren before....I know what to expect.

Originally Posted by scotty51312

Id throw in glucosamine as a supp for your joints if you're gonna take 8 weeks total of winstrol

I already take a joint supplement and will continue to take this. Not an issue.

**jcosley** · 08-26-2010, 01:16 PM

Simple question was ...is it a good idea to take winny start and finish, or just leave it for finishing the cycle? Dunno wtf is the point of telling me I need joint supplements. I already know this.

**HawaiianPride.** · 08-26-2010, 01:17 PM

You won't notice much of anything with a BF @ 10%+ with Stan. So the choice is yours..

**jcosley** · 08-26-2010, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by HawaiianPride.

You won't notice much of anything with a BF @ 10%+ with Stan. So the choice is yours..

Why exactly? Just curious.

**jcosley** · 08-26-2010, 02:04 PM

Forget it, thanks for the all the non helpful answers.

**glover** · 08-26-2010, 02:45 PM

I would run this cycle:

Week 1-12: Test cyp + Tren Enhante
Week 12-16: Test cyp (500 a week) + 50-100 mgs a day Winstrol
then pct.

**scotty51312** · 08-26-2010, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by jcosley

Why exactly? Just curious.

Because winstrol just makes your muscles harder. It may help you burn fat but its effects are best seen at under 10% Thats why the pro's consider it a cutting steroid but they walk on stage at aroud 3%bf thats why it works so well for them. Thats my understanding of winstrol someone correct me if i'm wrong.

**jcosley** · 08-26-2010, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by glover

I would run this cycle:

Week 1-12: Test cyp + Tren Enhante
Week 12-16: Test cyp (500 a week) + 50-100 mgs a day Winstrol
then pct.

Thanks brother. I might just do this. Might just run T3 and possibly clen at the beginning of the cycle and save the Winny for the end.

Originally Posted by scotty51312

Because winstrol just makes your muscles harder. It may help you burn fat but its effects are best seen at under 10% Thats why the pro's consider it a cutting steroid but they walk on stage at aroud 3%bf thats why it works so well for them. Thats my understanding of winstrol someone correct me if i'm wrong.

Thanks for the explanation sir.

**HawaiianPride.** · 08-26-2010, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by jcosley

Why exactly? Just curious.

Winstrol is a hormone that is designed to harden and bring out that "dry" look along with strength.

So with that being said, you have too much adipose tissue to notice anything besides perhaps a little strength increase, which would absolutely be overpowered by the other compounds. So like I said, it would be wasteful. You want to utilize the steroid for ALL it's individual benefits.

Originally Posted by jcosley

Forget it, thanks for the all the non helpful answers.

Gotta love it when people don't get what they want to hear and bitch about it just like this...

**jcosley** · 08-29-2010, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by HawaiianPride.

Winstrol is a hormone that is designed to harden and bring out that "dry" look along with strength.

So with that being said, you have too much adipose tissue to notice anything besides perhaps a little strength increase, which would absolutely be overpowered by the other compounds. So like I said, it would be wasteful. You want to utilize the steroid for ALL it's individual benefits.

Gotta love it when people don't get what they want to hear and bitch about it just like this...

Thanks for the helpful answer above. But when I already gave all my stats, pct, etc, i dont know why people are chiming in asking pointless stuff that doesnt have anything to do with my question. Thanks for you advice, i'll save them for the end of the cycle when i'm down around 10% bf.