What is better to jumpstart an Enth cycle?

[DocPharm]

Starting a cycle of Test Enth. Running it for 12 weeks. I know that for the first 4wks I need to to use something else to help jump start the cycle. I am down to choosing either Winni, A'drol, or Test Prop. What would you recommend to use for the first 4 weeks?

[dec11]

age and stats and experience please.

[wormwood]

Welcome friend

Give us your stats

Age
Height
Weight
Bodyfat%
Years Training
Cycle goals

[HawaiianPride.]

Welcome

[DocPharm]

I am setting up this stack for my workout partner: Here are his stats

5th cycle, have always used A'drol, Sust, and Deca in the past.

Age: 25
Height: 6'3
Wt: 230lbs
BF: 9.2% as of last test

Lift heavy 5x a week and do 20-40min cardio in the morning 4 days a week.
Calorie intake/day is 4000-5000.
Goals: Strength and bulking. He recently purchased Test Enth and Tren Enth. I explained to him that both are long ester forms and would take 4wks to produce results. I mentioned running something short ester such as Prop or Winni to help jump start his cycle. Dosage wise I him running 500mg/wk Test E and 400mg/wk Tren.

[dec11]

jez, 25 and 5 cycles in?? i'd go with the prop personally

why cant he come on here himself, or is it really for you?

[DocPharm]

Thank you for the suggestion, I have been leaning toward the prop.

No, this cycle is not for me. I have never used before, I am simply doing some research for him so he can get the max results from this cycle. I act as his trainer/nutritionist. I have a moderate amount of pharmacology through previous schooling, so I get how everything works, but I am just seeking the opinions of others as to how to start this cycle for him.

[HawaiianPride.]

He better be paying you for doing all his little dirty work.

Sorry just ticks me off when I come across "this is for my friend" threads. They need to not be lazy and do their own research.

[DocPharm]

I get my cut, so no worries there. The guy I am helping now is the kind of guy that does little research and has done very little PCT if any in the past and obviously experienced bad side effects. He was taking huge amounts of Sust and Deca and just all in all doing his cycles wrong. He was running them too long, ect.

This was before I started working out with him, about 3 months ago. He's been off of any form of test for 10 or 11 wks now and I just would prefer to do a little extra research to help him out. He's more of a leap, then look type of guy. I would rather just do the extra research and do it correct once. Pretty much he is a referral to me from a guy that i previously helped line out his cycles.

[dec11]

Thank you for the suggestion, I have been leaning toward the prop.

No, this cycle is not for me. I have never used before, I am simply doing some research for him so he can get the max results from this cycle. I act as his trainer/nutritionist. I have a moderate amount of pharmacology through previous schooling, so I get how everything works, but I am just seeking the opinions of others as to how to start this cycle for him.

are you a PT?

[DocPharm]

No I am not a cert. trainer. I am just a small town gym rat with a couple science degrees.